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Have any of you fortunate guys at the expo got any more info on the new LeTourneau loader to be unveiled as well as any interesting info from the Terex stand{Specs etc on new RH 400's for Oz and S.Africa?} Enjoy the last day! Brian C
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How big will this LeTournea be?
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It is modelled as an L1150 and i would think aimed at the 993K. As with most of there loaders it will have spec sheet dimension advantages ie more hp, bigger capacity bucket etc against the comparable loaders it is to compete against but that will be where the advantges stop.
I have not heard that the L950 has put much of a dent in the industry leaders position and the D950 wheel dozer, well if you have seen the blade set up you will understand why it has not been much of a success.
I believe we will see a WA1000 loader from Komatsu enter this class size next.
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The L-1150 is 131.5 tons in weight and has a bucket capacity of 19.1 cubic meters. Interesting comment about the blade set up Gavin, any pictures to explain your comments?
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No pics Mark but the 20+ foot wide blade has no side arms at its widest point, it has in affect a parallel linkage in the centre of the blade that has the arms spaced maybe 6 feet or so, heres the kicker, the arms and tilt cylinders mount to a big plate that is on a big round section that goes into the front frame of the machine and this whole contraption rotates to tip the blade left or right similar to how an artic trucks front and rear frames rotate if you like and there is apparently a big fibrous bearing in there and this bears every bit of loading from the blade, to me it looks like if you did any corner tip work the blade would snap off, sure wheel dozers are a clean up machine but if you have ever seen an 854 work well, they are only marginally behind a D11 in work rate.
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THe 993K is a brand new wheel loader.The first one Caterpillar created since the 994 in 1990.Cat says we should look at it as a smaller 994 rather then a bigger 992K.
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I saw both of these machines at the convention on Monday. The L1150 is a 25 yard, 76,000 pound payload machine, same as the 994F. Per the brochure, it's matched to load 120-200 ton trucks. The brochure even has a spec comparison table between the L1150 and a mechanical drive, 1477 hp, 430,000 lb competitor (994F specs). 993K is matched to 100-150 ton trucks and has a 50,000 lb payload.
What's interesting is that the L1150 weighs 4000 pounds less than a 993K. The L1350 weighs 400,000 lbs and has an 84,000 payload. There doesn't seem to be much difference in payload between the 1150 and 1350, but a big difference in operating weight. Maybe the 1150 is made for loading and the 1350 for digging, like the 992K/993K?
As for the the 950 dozer, one of the LeTourneau reps said that they had 9 machines out in the field so far.
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At 25 yards it sounds like the new L1150 is a closer competitor to another big wheel loader there at the show.Namely the Komatsu WA1200.The 994F is 23-24 yards and the WA1200 is even bigger.Thats would make the L1150 weighing about 289,000lbs
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When I get back I will post pics of all the major machines..In regards to the L-1150, Its nowhere near the physical size or power of a 994F or a WA 1200.It has an operating weight of 290,000 lbs. The WA 1200 "which was also at the show" is a 452,000 lb machine and handles buckets up to 45 yds. The 994F is a 431,000 lb machine and has capacites similar to the 1200.Common sizes for hard rock are over 30 yds. The 1200 and 994F are also more powerful machines in all respects.The 1150 is targeted towards the 993K size loader.The show was the largest MineXpo ever, and had more very large machines than ever on display. Incredible to say the least. Tommarow I will re-size and post lots of pics. We had a fantastic time with the show and freinds. Hats off to the MineXpo folks, all of them, Awsome show!!! Tim.
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Thanks for the shot of the Sierrita 30 truck!! I loved driving that old warrior - one of the finest Cat ever built (especially before the VIMS upgrade, and with the DTHiload bed on it).
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Like i said Homer371, the spec sheet will show all these advantages when it comes to numbers and then in the dirt it is a whole different deal, what size tyre is the L1150 on, i will bet it is same as 993
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I knew that the WA1200 was going be there.But not the 24M.What was the 793B minus dump body doing there?
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I knew that the WA1200 was going be there.But not the 24M.What was the 793B minus dump body doing there?Where are the pictures on your website Steve?
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That 793B is the 30 truck from Sierrita - Cat paid to ship it up there as a promotional deal, since there's not too many 17 year old 793s that have seen the better side of 100,000 hours out there still running. It's the oldest of three from Sierrita that have reached that mark so far.
IIRC the 30 was the first actual production 793.
For the trivia buffs, the 994 and 793 were both unveiled at Sierrita in '90 and '91 respectively.
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That is the info i have aswell D10N, Cat are saying it was the first 93 off the line so it should be a 3SJ s/n machine.
The 793 and the 24M were at a seperate Cat only function called Minesite at Night @ Ceasars. This is a relaxed atmosphere away from the main show where customers can be shown a lot of the latest product support initiatives over a drink or 2.
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Gavin84W, The 1150 brochure doesn't list the tire size. Both machines looked to be pretty close in size including the tires.
TimT, do you have a website where you have your original size pictures? The really big ones make great wallpapers for 24 inch monitors.
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Hah, probably the only thing they could not out dimension the 993 on so we will just leave that small detail off. Dont get me wrong, i think for the most part Let make a decent wheel loader but it just seems that apples for apples comparisons they need to have more but really it does the same.
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Gavin84w wrote:It is modelled as an L1150 and i would think aimed at the 993K. As with most of there loaders it will have spec sheet dimension advantages ie more hp, bigger capacity bucket etc against the comparable loaders it is to compete against but that will be where the advantges stop.
I have not heard that the L950 has put much of a dent in the industry leaders position and the D950 wheel dozer, well if you have seen the blade set up you will understand why it has not been much of a success.
I believe we will see a WA1000 loader from Komatsu enter this class size next. Gav I know what you mean by the odd R-T set up on the L950 Pitbulls. Couldnt work it out from a quick walk around. No Draft arm's like the 992 R-T's.
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