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Posted: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:25:36 PM
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Hi guys,

You will be able to order both the Mammoet and the American Version of the Kobelco at CONEXPO. We are not allowed to announce the details until the show - but of course, the models were on display at the Tonkin booth in Nurenburg so the "cat is out of the bag" somewhat!

I cannot tell you what will be at our booth - you will need to stop by and see!!

Booth number 20010 in the hallway between the Grand Entry and the Gold Lot.

Chuck
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Posted: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:11 PM

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admin wrote:
Hi guys,

You will be able to order both the Mammoet and the American Version of the Kobelco at CONEXPO. We are not allowed to announce the details until the show - but of course, the models were on display at the Tonkin booth in Nurenburg so the "cat is out of the bag" somewhat!

I cannot tell you what will be at our booth - you will need to stop by and see!!

Booth number 20010 in the hallway between the Grand Entry and the Gold Lot.

Chuck

Hey Chuck, I know you said in another post that we wouldnt have to carry a bunch of models around and that they would be delivered from DHS at time of purchase at the show, BUT.... some of us would like to cary them around will that be possible...Drool Pray
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:34:03 AM

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I just got excited about going to the conexpo this year. Digging and Rigging's LTM 1750 is huge. I just saw some picture of it and it has luffer in it too. There's a lot of big IRON there this year. The largest crane at the last show was liebherr's LR 1600 and the largest hydro was groves GMK 6400. This year you have lieberr's LR 10000, LTM 1750, Sany's SCC 8500, Terex (Demag) CC3800 with a lot of boom! WOW. I hope 8GB is enough.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:03:49 PM
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I shall be there all but Saturday.

For the cookie lovers, I agree that the Digging and Rigging and Buckner machines at Liebheer will be of interest. For size the CC3800 will also be of interest at Terex. Link Belt will be showing their new 50 ton telescopic crawler as well as another all terrain a step smaller than their current 275 ton machine. Tadano has announced that they will be showing their 400 series all terrain, their new 150 ton rough terrain as well as a new range topping Mantis telescopic crawler. Grove is showing the GMK 6300L and the GMK 6400 which is now in production. Likewise, we may see the new little rough terrains though their big new seems to be yet disclosed crawlers following in the footsteps of the MLC100 which has not been universally available and the MLC165 which was at Bauma and supposedly replaced the 555 and 777. One of these is supposedly of good size. I would guess that we are going to see at least one announcement in the 250 to 300 metric ton range that meets both US and European Union standards.

With Tier IV in the US, the impact of new engine packages in all equipment will be significant. The price increases will be equally significant I am sure.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:26:45 PM

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Check her out!


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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:37:11 PM
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Brandon What model Manitowoc is that? haven't seen that one before.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:33:25 PM

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Photo is from the conexpo Facebook page, I zoomed in a little and cropped it
not sure what model number it is, think around 6-700 tons I heard around the web. Should be a smaller one there too I think around 3-400t, plus the mlc165.


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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:24:35 PM

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No wonder Manitowoc sued Sany for violating intelectual property rights regarding the VPC idea after they aquired an ex-manitowoc designer...

Very interesting.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:30:31 PM
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OK, OK - we will bring some stuff for you to carry around with you too...

Chuck
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:07:23 PM

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We should try for a get together.


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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:11:02 PM

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I'm considering going. What is the "education" session pass? I'll probably just get the standard pass

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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:19:38 PM

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She's a beaut Brandon! I wonder what model that is..

Found a story on the ConExpo2014 setup with a small slideshow with cookies in them including the CC3800 with wheeled CW cart which will be making its North American debut. Here's a link to both:
http://enr.construction.com/products/equipment/2014/0209-Cranespotting-More-CONEXPO-Setup-Photos.asp
Slideshow:
http://enr.construction.com/products/equipment/2014/extras/0209/slideshow.asp
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:49:48 PM
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cranedude07 wrote:
Check her out!


She's beautiful indeed! Wouldn't this be the updated/evolved 18000? Probably a new name as well.

craneman wrote:
No wonder Manitowoc sued Sany for violating intelectual property rights regarding the VPC idea after they aquired an ex-manitowoc designer...

Very interesting.


For the record; the extendable and retractable counterweight in a horizontal plane is not a new concept. Coles used it back in the '70s and the most recent example I can think of are some of the Terex American HC series, which were actually IHI machines.

As for the litigation; there is a story about a man and seeing a banner at Conexpo 2011 that started all this. Some of you here know what I'm referring to. In the end; both companies have what they are now calling a "floating" counterweight design. The execution may be cosmetically different, but the physics are the same.
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Thanks for the explanation. Looks impressive-always changing.How do the smaller co's keep up? For those that are going enjoy. I like 'cookies'.
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For the record; the extendable and retractable counterweight in a horizontal plane is not a new concept. Coles used it back in the '70s and the most recent example I can think of are some of the Terex American HC series, which were actually IHI machines.


Have to disagree here with you , the first new series from American ( A100HC later called HC125 , A1500HC later called the HC210 ) were the the ones with the extendable and retractable counterweight ( called Workhorse ).
Those machines were no IHI machines , all the later HC models are IHI machines ( HC 60 80 110 165 275 350) But those machines don't have the Workhorse Feature.

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Posted: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:11:59 PM

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Sorry for my failed attempt at adding pictures and for some reason I cannot "EDIT" my last post to get rid of it.

http://www.coastcrane.com/ProductGuidePDF/SANY_SCC8500.PDF

Not sure how to put the code in to paste the pictures but if you look at these it will illustrate my point about intelectual property and patent infringments.

The telescopic counterweights that are on the Coles and American Workhorse, Grove and Linkbelt used the extending CW idea back in the 70's and 80's on taxi cranes.cranes is old news and nothing like the new Manitowoc or Sany VPC as the react to load radius and are similar in nature to a luffing jib tower crane, KROLL uses a system like the Manitowoc and Sany cranes also.

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Glad someone is computer savvy....
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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2014 1:40:40 AM
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Hi all,

I suggest a meeting for all forum members in front of the DHS Booth each day at 12 noon. Whichever day you are there, come on over and say hello to fellow posters and lurkers from the forum!

Sound good????

Chuck


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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:09:56 AM
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Chuck,
Will you be offering a Monday, top secret, early sneak peek meeting?
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