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I have been displaying my Terex TA400 dump on a Sword KW T800 with Rogers four axle flip, all in white. I thought I had the weight combo right. Now I saw a film with the same TA400 being hauled by a KW 8x4 and a 2x2x2. The tag axle was up. I looked up the weight of the TA400. It's about 68 tons. Adding in the tare weight, I thought I was okay with the tractor's axles making 6 axles. So am I wrong? Can you not count the tractor axles? If not, I have to find a Smith 2x2x2 since CHUCK doesn't make one! I don't want to use a 3x3x3 or a Corgi 5 axle. What do you guys think? CAW
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Here in Michigan, if it fits we haul it
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Hi there Mr. Quinella. I think you might have been looking at the gross weight of the TA400. I show the empty weight at 70,000 to 75,000 lbs. You could permit it just about anywhere on seven axles, defiantly eight. The one you saw with a 2x2x2, might be that is what the guy was pulling when he got the load.   Ken
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Ken: I should have put 68,000 POUNDS in my original post, not 68 tons. I had also thought about the driver happened to have a 2x2x2 trailer. So is it okay to keep my display as is? I've been watching YouTube about the ConExpo in 2014 where they hauled off all the equipment. Geez Louise, there are so many great looking rigs. If you haven't seen these three videos, go look. There is a couple of multi-axle West Coast style rigs. Many Trail Kings, Landover, Murray, Talbert...etc. Better than watching HBO! Thanks for the info gents. CAW
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I'd say you have yourself a pretty standard load for that truck. I believe a lot of companies use that size dump because you are able to haul them fully assembled. Just stand up the headache rack and exhaust and start running
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Here in Aus, we'd put that on a 4x8 at 4 metres wide and go for it.
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Craigy it all depends on what the weight laws are in a particular state. In NH you can move a Komatsu HM 400 on a 3 axle lowboy and 3 axle tractor.
I gross 76k lbs in my concrete mixer fully loaded on 4 axles. In Michigan and other states that same weight requires 7 axles.
We can move a Hitachi or JD 470 with no counterweight or bucket on a 4 axle lowboy and 4 axle tractor or complete with just the addition of a 2 axle dolly. Out west it would probably be a 2x2x2 or more.
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A good rule of thumb is 20,000 per axle in most states, some allow more but 20,000 is pretty common. I'm not real familiar with the western states, I know they run those 8 tire per axle trailers so I'm not sure what the can get per axle. But with a 40 ton rock truck like that you could easily scale it on 7 axles most everywhere in Ohio we can scale it on 6 but we can get 25,000 per axle on a tandem. Your tri axle tractor and quad trailer is plenty.
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Thanks Gents: Hey Spritzer, I don't know if I trust the numbers that you gave out. You didn't even know your own zip code!!!!! CRAIG
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Not sure about a 400 komatsu but we haul 410 and 460 deere trucks on three axle lowboys out here. Az can be farly lax though.
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Haha, like I haven't heard that one before! Lol it's this damn technology crap and my fat fingers, they don't mix.
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johndeere4020 wrote:I'm not real familiar with the western states, I know they run those 8 tire per axle trailers so I'm not sure what the can get per axle. We've got some fun laws out here lol. There's 4 axles on those trailers, 2 on each side of the trailer. The axles can spread out from 102" to 120" wide so you can gross 60k on them, less if you leave the axles at 102". With a "Triple 16" set up (it looks like a 2x2x2 from the side) your gross is in the 80-85 ton range.
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Thanks again. Clifton, I just clicked onto your website and GEEZ LOUISE. I never knew about your site. Great looking work. Are you an engineer of some type? It appears that I have to belong to Facebook to join your sight? I don't do Facebook, too old to get started. But I wanted to comment on your work. It is wonderful. I couldn't tell from the comments if you ever sold your work. Or do you do custom work? Anyway, way to go. The blue Pete is outstanding. Craig PS Spritzer never told me about your sight. he will pay dearly!!!!!
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Thank you Craig! I'm not an engineer but I did have a Lego filled childhood haha. I get as much reference material as I can, pictures, measurements, etc then just take my time with the build. Yeah you do because it's a Facebook page and not an independent website. I have sold a couple pieces that I've done but for the most part I don't do commission work, I tend to get to stressed and it takes the fun out of it. Thanks again!
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