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Rivera2171
Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 11:36:48 PM

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I finally found this guy for a good price ($207.00) + shipping. Something about its fugliness and power is so beautiful to me...
So it came with some detached parts which required repair. It is a fantastic looking model, probably one of Tonkins best.

So does anyone have any advice or know what trailer would make a good pairing with this? I would really like to display it with some type of heavy load.

Thanks-

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Quinella
Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2019 12:04:12 AM

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Put a trailer that can carry the old Space Shuttle. That is a beast. Thanks. CAW
GuyM
Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:34:04 AM
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Rivera2171,

The French model company Miniatures du Faubourg have reproduced the Australian road train which was towed by the Tractomas sold down there:



I have to admit that the price seems very expensive (240 Euros/resin-made trailer) but that road train should be a "killer".
Link to the MdF website: https://miniaturesdufaubourg.fr/#home and to the page dedicated to transport models: https://miniaturesdufaubourg.fr/camions/ (pictures can be seen at the bottom).

I have myself "solved the problem" by simply loading the Tractomas for road transport to an export harbor: http://forums.dhsdiecast.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=139055&p=32



I hope it helps.
Guy
modelmaniac
Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2019 12:45:00 PM

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I have always liked the look of that truck.You can clearly see a normal articulated truck cab,on top of a massive engine.First time I have ever seen it tilted open,to reveal the beast underneath.ApplauseYou definitely need to get a suitable trailer.
Rivera2171
Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2019 3:49:47 PM

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Quinella wrote:
Put a trailer that can carry the old Space Shuttle. That is a beast. Thanks. CAW


Ha! The Tractomas could probably do it...


GuyM wrote:
Rivera2171,

The French model company Miniatures du Faubourg have reproduced the Australian road train which was towed by the Tractomas sold down there:



I have to admit that the price seems very expensive (240 Euros/resin-made trailer) but that road train should be a "killer".
Link to the MdF website: https://miniaturesdufaubourg.fr/#home and to the page dedicated to transport models: https://miniaturesdufaubourg.fr/camions/ (pictures can be seen at the bottom).

I have myself "solved the problem" by simply loading the Tractomas for road transport to an export harbor: http://forums.dhsdiecast.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=139055&p=32



I hope it helps.
Guy


Thanks for the assist Guy. Yea I bought a 7 axle trailer from WSI thinking that would work, but the 5th wheel sits way too high on the Tractomas. Which makes me wonder if its that way in real life...
It looks like a drawbar type trailer would be my only option at this point...

modelmaniac wrote:
I have always liked the look of that truck.You can clearly see a normal articulated truck cab,on top of a massive engine.First time I have ever seen it tilted open,to reveal the beast underneath.ApplauseYou definitely need to get a suitable trailer.


It is a beast. I do need to find a suitable trailer, but then ill need to find a suitable load as well. Man this hobby is big money...



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GuyM
Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:51:21 PM
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Rivera2171,

Conventional road semi-trailers are generally designed for 5th wheel height between 1.25 and 1.50 metres and the 8x8 Tractomas one is much higher than that.
I would therefore recommend to use it as a ballasted tow truck with a modular trailer (for example a 12-line unit made from 4 Corgi Nicolas modules, as a minimum): except for the LCR Tractomas, designed to tow 4 semi-trailers in an Australian mine, most of Nicolas heavy units are used worldwide ballasted (see below, the LCR version and a ballasted unit in operation in China):





Regards.
Guy





Rivera2171
Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2019 7:41:04 PM

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Thanks for the information and advice Guy. It is much appreciated. I will look into it.

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RobS
Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2019 10:57:47 PM
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The thing is comically large. Love it!

Rob
Barkerjoh
Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:50:44 PM

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for how big a machine the mirrors look small enough to be pointless. I agree very impressive machine though.
D3xter
Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 4:23:38 PM
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I thought the Actros 8x8 was a big truck but this is huge.
I suggest you look out for Corgi Nicolas bogies along with a girder trailer if you please. If you get lucky as you did with the truck, you will not have to break the bank. That is how I display my Mammoet Actros.
Rivera2171
Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 6:06:40 PM

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D3xter wrote:
I thought the Actros 8x8 was a big truck but this is huge.
I suggest you look out for Corgi Nicolas bogies along with a girder trailer if you please. If you get lucky as you did with the truck, you will not have to break the bank. That is how I display my Mammoet Actros.


Thanks for your suggestion. I have seen some of the Corgi Nicolas bogies. My only concern is I am a bit particular on details, the more the better. I do not know how well detailed the Corgis are...
Thanks for the comment about the truck. I sent you a PM.

Barkerjoh wrote:
for how big a machine the mirrors look small enough to be pointless.

Thats a good point now that you mention it. It could do with some additional or larger mirrors...

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D3xter
Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 11:55:45 AM
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Rivera2171 wrote:
D3xter wrote:
I thought the Actros 8x8 was a big truck but this is huge.
I suggest you look out for Corgi Nicolas bogies along with a girder trailer if you please. If you get lucky as you did with the truck, you will not have to break the bank. That is how I display my Mammoet Actros.


Thanks for your suggestion. I have seen some of the Corgi Nicolas bogies. My only concern is I am a bit particular on details, the more the better. I do not know how well detailed the Corgis are...
Thanks for the comment about the truck. I sent you a PM.


You are right. The Corgi Nicolas bogies are very basic. No hydraulic hoses or other mechanical parts visible let alone steered wheels. The advantage is you get a lot of wheels for little money and on display, they do not look very different from more expensive models when seen from a few feet away.
D3xter
Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 1:46:01 PM
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How I would like to display it.


How it is actually displayed.
Rivera2171
Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:05:29 PM

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So true about display options...never enough room.

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Rivera2171
Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:27:39 PM

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So I finally was able to more less get a decent setup for my Tractomas. Between getting the wrong trailer type, needing a ballast trailer and waiting for eBay stuff to sell to fund all of this, this is what I got:
There aren't many options for ballasts so I got this one from eBay. It is a Drake ballast. I had to modify it slightly to fit the Tractomas, but I am glad it worked without needing to greatly change anything.


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Got this IMC trailer from DHS. It has nice details and is a trailer for the price. The hitch on the Tractomas did require some minor modifications for the drawbar to fit.

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When all was said and done, the original load I planned looked far to easy for the truck to handle...

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So I had to get a more substantial load...

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So anyway, this is probably not too accurate but I am happy with the overall result. It was way more of an effort than I anticipated though...

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modelmaniac
Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:45:23 PM

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Looks really good.That ballastbox,is perfect on that truck.Good looking load.Looks like that tractor would still pull it all easily!
Rivera2171
Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:52:11 PM

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Thanks modelmaniac! I agree the Tractomas makes it look easy...

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Exkvate3140
Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2019 7:25:34 PM
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The completed unit looks very good, you did a very nice job with it and your second load looks much better than your first one you had on it.
Steve
Rivera2171
Posted: Monday, March 18, 2019 1:37:41 PM

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Thanks Steve!

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kcmtoys
Posted: Monday, March 18, 2019 2:32:02 PM

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Very nice, you have done a great job! It looks very realistic to me. One thing I might add though, would be a pusher truck. Just a thought.Whistle Ken



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