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Paul R
Posted: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:16:52 PM

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Sarens Shop have announced the LR1300 diecast model!

300 made and available in August.

I am sure our host will be selling them.

Regards,

Paul R

wildpig1234
Posted: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 5:53:31 PM
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Anything special about this edition beside the sarens name?

If they are gonna use an old mould, they should do something new. For one, the ballast wagon and extra extension should be standard. Two, they should make extension sets available. Not sure why there is no extension sets for LR 1300.

Also i saw on a german dealer that there was a new LR 1300 preorder (not sarens) that would have sections for 92m main booms. Sadly, that model got cancelled.

Would be nice to have a medium crawler since i have the lightweight hs855 and the heavyweight lr1600 and lr1750. But nzg just not making it easy...lol...
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wildpig1234
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RMS Models wrote:
http://www.dhsdiecast.com/Liebherr-LR1300-Crawler-Crane-w_Derrick-Sarens/productinfo/IMC20-1059

Notice the manufacturer says "IMC" !!!


sorry my bad...lol. thought it was the old nzg one.

so that pic shows a ballast wagon and derrick so that's good that its hopefully included. but that is not a very long boom and jib same size compared to the base nzg one.

and that $700 price is just a bit too expensive for the thing i think

I didn't know liebherr would license or approach another model maker . i guess there's no exclusive licensing?
Paul R
Posted: Thursday, May 21, 2020 5:58:51 AM

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wildpig1234 wrote:
Anything special about this edition beside the sarens name?

If they are gonna use an old mould, they should do something new. For one, the ballast wagon and extra extension should be standard. Two, they should make extension sets available. Not sure why there is no extension sets for LR 1300.

Also i saw on a german dealer that there was a new LR 1300 preorder (not sarens) that would have sections for 92m main booms. Sadly, that model got cancelled.

Would be nice to have a medium crawler since i have the lightweight hs855 and the heavyweight lr1600 and lr1750. But nzg just not making it easy...lol...



It is a Sarens edition so no different to standard except the name. It is made by NZG so same mold as before - I think there were only ever 2 companies done before which were van Marjwik and Felbermayr so it is not an overused model!

Config shown in the photo is what is coming so derrick mast and ballast wagon are included.

It has an IMC PN because IMC manage the Sarens Store hence the confusion there.

Paul R
Tim Clamp
Posted: Thursday, May 21, 2020 2:15:00 PM

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Also comes with an extra boom and jib section.

Tim Clamp
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Alberta Millwright
Posted: Thursday, May 21, 2020 6:32:46 PM

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I missed out on the Van M version so I am not missing out on this!

If it's mechanical, hydraulic, pneumatic, and automated I can build it.
wildpig1234
Posted: Thursday, May 21, 2020 6:39:58 PM
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I see. that makes sense. I did some calculation and the cost of LR1300+ derrick kit+"sarens" does come pretty close to $700.
However, I am still disappointed they don't plan to have any separate extension sets so we can build the max height configuration.
Come to think of it, it would be so easy for them to release extension sets for crawler cranes since they don't even have to design anything new at all (unlike jib for mobile cranes). And yet we are so very short on extension sets for ALL (i really mean ALL) crawler cranes from both NZG and conrad. Is there a rationale behind this that i am missing somehow?
Also jib sets for mobile cranes are always in shortage and you would think that they would want to capitalize on the development cost of the jib set. and yet they only seem to make them in very limited numbers and just stop alltogether. Am I missing something also here?
Paul R
Posted: Friday, May 22, 2020 8:38:45 AM

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wildpig1234 wrote:
.....And yet we are so very short on extension sets for ALL (i really mean ALL) crawler cranes from both NZG and conrad. Is there a rationale behind this that i am missing somehow?....


Which sets in particular? I know for sure not all crawlers had them available, but the LR1600/2 did (maybe still does?), LR1750 had boom sections and windmill tips for sale, the Manitowoc 18000, 16000, 4100W also had sets available.

There is also to consider the appeal as not all collectors have the room or desire to build max height. For example, I prefer the heavy lift set ups as opposed to the full main boom and luffer on crawlers. Jibs look good on the mobiles but I don't have any at full reach.

As for the luffers for mobiles, they do seem in short supply for company colours, except for YCC who produced jib sets for all their mobiles and even recently released more lattice sections for older releases. But I know the cost for manufacturing lattice sections is quite high and a lot of waste involved so maybe that is a reason why they are limited?

Paul R
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Paul R wrote:
wildpig1234 wrote:
.....And yet we are so very short on extension sets for ALL (i really mean ALL) crawler cranes from both NZG and conrad. Is there a rationale behind this that i am missing somehow?....


Which sets in particular? I know for sure not all crawlers had them available, but the LR1600/2 did (maybe still does?), LR1750 had boom sections and windmill tips for sale, the Manitowoc 18000, 16000, 4100W also had sets available.

There is also to consider the appeal as not all collectors have the room or desire to build max height. For example, I prefer the heavy lift set ups as opposed to the full main boom and luffer on crawlers. Jibs look good on the mobiles but I don't have any at full reach.

As for the luffers for mobiles, they do seem in short supply for company colours, except for YCC who produced jib sets for all their mobiles and even recently released more lattice sections for older releases. But I know the cost for manufacturing lattice sections is quite high and a lot of waste involved so maybe that is a reason why they are limited?

Paul R


lets take the two most well known. lr 1600 and lr 1750. I am not able to find any place that have the long extension kits in stock.

The most available seems to be 4100w

It seems like nzg and conrad completely stopped making the extension sets for lr1750 and lr 1600 and you have like a fix numbers of sets available worldwide? not sure what their rationale is... as the demand is definitely there since there are no place that had them in stock will still have them in stock for long. forget about the windmill tip. I am quite certain that there is no place that have the long extension kit in stock. Prove me wrong on that if you can...lol...

My point is that even if not all collectors wants max height, there are just so MANY out there that do. Because as i said, there is absolutely no place that still have them in stock. And those places that did, was OOS in an instant.

I am not able to find any dealer right now that has any of the jib kits for most of these mobiles (, ltm 11200, ltm 1350 1500). the only jib widely avail is the atf 400 jib from tadano fan shop. Forget about company or matching color.... you can't even find a non matching color set ... lol..

I am pretty f'ckin frustrated about this. Sorry...lol... I tell you I am willing to put down a substantial amount above the retail cost for some of these sets but I can't find a taker. So that tells you how short supply they are. And how much in demand they are by more than enough number of collectors.
Paul Crane
Posted: Friday, May 22, 2020 9:52:35 AM
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Alberta - You didn't miss out on the Van Marvijk. I just bought one a couple of weeks ago.
Alberta Millwright
Posted: Friday, May 22, 2020 1:00:41 PM

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Well I missed out when I could have got one at a dealer for like 700 CAD. I see there is a damaged one with badly painted counter weights full of dust on Ebay for like 650 CAD and another one in really good condition for like 1200 CAD. Did you manage to find one outside of Ebay?


And I don't have the room either for extra jib sections so I mostly just use the heavy lift setup like Paul R. I have one LR 1600 setup with full luffer in my garage because that's the only room I have for one until the basement gets completed. I am a little disappointed in WSI for producing very little 1500 jibs when they have a few thousand 1500 models out there, and they really should just prime them so we can all paint the proper colors for whatever livery we have. NZG did a fantastic job with the jibs for the 11200 as there are still some out there at dealers and they said they may be doing another run this year.

If it's mechanical, hydraulic, pneumatic, and automated I can build it.
wildpig1234
Posted: Friday, May 22, 2020 5:46:56 PM
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Alberta Millwright wrote:
Well I missed out when I could have got one at a dealer for like 700 CAD. I see there is a damaged one with badly painted counter weights full of dust on Ebay for like 650 CAD and another one in really good condition for like 1200 CAD. Did you manage to find one outside of Ebay?


And I don't have the room either for extra jib sections so I mostly just use the heavy lift setup like Paul R. I have one LR 1600 setup with full luffer in my garage because that's the only room I have for one until the basement gets completed. I am a little disappointed in WSI for producing very little 1500 jibs when they have a few thousand 1500 models out there, and they really should just prime them so we can all paint the proper colors for whatever livery we have. NZG did a fantastic job with the jibs for the 11200 as there are still some out there at dealers and they said they may be doing another run this year.


I used to send an email everyday to wsi to ask them to restart making 1350 and 1500 jib. I think i am on their spam list now...lol.... Seriously it just sucks when they know there is a shortage and a demand for it but just choose to ignore it while we collectors get frustrated. I have to agree ycc is definitely much better at this by actually making different color jibs when all they have to do was just keep making just a base jib to keep most collectors happy

I guess wsi, nzg and conrad have a different business model or mentality? not sure if those 3 being european being a common factor?
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