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glenhd
Posted: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:25:39 PM

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jeffco8475 wrote:
glenhd wrote:
Jeff lets not forget who drank the Boars Nest dry that night...It takes 2 beers to load the truck and about 68 buckets..

Prt i thaught you would like the blacktop chutes and no roadies in the truck cooler is strapped on the back of the hoe..

JoeE don't worry i'm a trained professional...

Mr Falcone got a 5 gallon bucket in the pass side full also...

The amount i pay in road tax and registration should be able to haul as much as i can fit in her....

"TRIPLE NICKLE"
CLAP EM!!!! glen

I remember ME drinking the Boars nest dry that night and I remember you throwing up on Jimmys shoe in my driveway right? Good times man, good times. So you gonna make it back out this way next year for the IMCATS show or what? Or not till conexpo in 2011?



Let me refresh your mind Mr Collins i think those 11teen Coors Lights u drank that night might have messed with your mind..Old Loverboy was hurling on his own shoes that night and PRT,NICKIE and I were still going strong and i guess i can throw u in their also.I do remember one night in Egypt PRT and I came out and had to put sunglasses on if you know what i mean.Wink

As for the show will be their no racing next year,and def going to Conex..




CLAP CLAP CLAP EM!!!!!!!!!!!

"TRIPLE NICKLE" BABY


A little something for a good friend......ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
45LMSWM
Posted: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:47:59 PM

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[quote=glenhd]Hit the scales @ 115,590lbs tare of truck is 32,200 you do the math..
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Don't want to sound like a jerk, but why would you put your weight in writing along with a picture of your truck on the internet clearly stating that you are in excess of 40,000 lbs overweight? Before you yell back at me, be aware that I may or may not have quite possibly run trucks for years in the past in excess of 300,000lbs gross on as few as 5-axles, but if i were you, i would really think twice before you admit to the world your knowledge of such events, especially current ones.

Try not to unintentionally kill someone why you are loaded to that extreme, 'cause at this point it would be Criminally Negligent Homicide. Again, not trying to be a jerk, just looking out. My mamma always told me, "Admit Nothing". Good advice if you ask me.

Just about everyone in this business has run heavy from time to time, some of us may do so everyday. Just a fact of life. But watch what you say, and even more so, what you write.

FYI, one of the biggest heavy/highway contractors here in NJ went under over just such an event. Driver had a permit and everything, but never should have even been on the road. Physically not the driver's fault, but u know how legal technicalities work out. Company went from doing $100 million state jobs to bankruptcy overnight.

Just my two cents. Take it as you will.

John
tdozer
Posted: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:28:24 AM
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45lmswm,
That wasnt hesse bros. was it? We have moved their BE61B Draglines in one piece neumerous times on 6 axles. i dont recall what they weighed but i know that we should have never been on the road like that. 15 feet wide 100+ tons on 6 axles.........stopping doesn't work too well!
45LMSWM
Posted: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:07:54 AM

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tdozer,

Not sure which Hesse you mean. Hess Bros. out of Parlin had 61Bs that we used to move after the got out of the construction business. They were our landlord for many years and we parked in their old yard, rented their old weld shop. CJ Hesse/Brick-Wall Corp. in Forked River/Lacey had a bunch of drags at their pit, but we never really moved any of them once they got there. We brought a 190D Northwest in there like 12 years ago, full boat less the boom, on 6. Don't think AC Hesse in Manchester has anything like that.

Hess Brothers' 61B was sold to a sand pit way down in South Jersey. We brought it there and it stayed for about a year before Haas out of V-town bought it. We used to move it around a lot for Haas for a few years but not sure where it wound up.

We never had too many brake problems...Our stuff was built for the weight and we always did brakes long before they were due. Plus we never really "cowboyed" it up all that much. That 51 wobble wheel has never had a brake job since we bought it, and still looks like new. She stops on a dime, too.

I only ever lost my brakes three times. Once I was empty and I blew an air dryer on the Autocar coming down the hill on Columbia Turnpike in Florham Park. Stopped just before the brake valve popped. I flipped an s-cam with a Daewoo 400 on a Saturday down in Toms River and I dragged it 50 miles all the way back to Parlin, stopping every mile or so to let the brakes cool down. Went past the curfew that day, lol.

The time that really scared me, I was moving a 988 on Route 15 in Ogdensburg when i was just 21. I misjudged the hill before the Ogdensburg exit. Came down the hill doing 25MPH with the Jakes screaming and i just could not slow the truck down. Blew right past the exit with 65lbs on the air gauge. I never would have been able to stop at the light at the end of the ramp...would have killed myself or someone else, for sure. Took an hour of sitting on the shoulder for the brakes to cool down. Backed up 1500 feet on the shoulder and took the exit. Knock on wood, I have been fairly lucky since then.

Gotta be careful out there. This is no game, serious sh**, and you have to have respect for it.

John
45LMSWM
Posted: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:11:08 AM

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45LMSWM wrote:


FYI, one of the biggest heavy/highway contractors here in NJ went under over just such an event. Driver had a permit and everything, but never should have even been on the road. Physically not the driver's fault, but u know how legal technicalities work out. Company went from doing $100 million state jobs to bankruptcy overnight.


tdozer,

Contractor was mj paquet out of Ridgefield Park, NJ.

John
chessiegp39
Posted: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:05:19 AM
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45LMSWM wrote:
45LMSWM wrote:


FYI, one of the biggest heavy/highway contractors here in NJ went under over just such an event. Driver had a permit and everything, but never should have even been on the road. Physically not the driver's fault, but u know how legal technicalities work out. Company went from doing $100 million state jobs to bankruptcy overnight.


tdozer,

Contractor was mj paquet out of Ridgefield Park, NJ.

John


This is not the time that his lowbed flipped while hauling a machine I think on Rt.3 in 2004 or so?
I was told he went out because he lost his shirt on those two bridge jobs on the Passaic.

James
glenhd
Posted: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:44:44 PM

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Thats right i allllllmost forgot which forum i was on here..I got to remember that everyone oh let me rephrase that almost everyone on here"KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT NOTHING AND NOTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING"...Just my 2 cents

CLAP CLAP CLAP EM!!!!!!!!!!!

"TRIPLE NICKLE" BABY


A little something for a good friend......ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tomcat1191
Posted: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:22:18 PM

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What would we do with OUT ALL THE experts?

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

tomcat1191
Posted: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:25:25 PM

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The man never did say he was in expert he said just don't go around bragging. Here is some expert advice did you know I can turn you into OSHA with that picture and you can get a fine if they see something wrong. They don't even have to be there anymore. Heard that right from a chief officer himself.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

45LMSWM
Posted: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:26:39 AM

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like i said, was not trying to be a jerk...just trying to give some friendly advice. Don't think for a second that things posted on here don't get read by the wrong people from time to time. We had problems at work arising from this sort of thing before. Learned the hard way to never talk about weights in writing. Everything is cool until something bad happens and you have a scale ticket showing that you are overweight.

For years NJ allowed all kinds of crazy stuff to go on. Not any more. They went from allowing as much as 248,000 lbs on a six axle lowboy to now just about a max of 140,000 on the same truck overnight. All because too many guys were screwing around. They allow 80,000 lbs max gross on a 4-axle dump truck/mixer and that will likely be dropped significantly in the near future as well, at least down to 73280 if not even lower. The Fed will no longer pay out Highway dollars for states who don't comply with something relatively close to the federal bridge law.

Last year I sat at a local sand pit right next to the scale house while I was waiting for the undercarraige to get shoveled out on a D6. Did not see one truck pass over the scales under 105,000 lbs. gross. One hauler was running scrap trailers loaded over the top with wet bank run. Crossed the scales at 202,000 with one truck on 5 axles, and kept on going right out the gate.

It makes you kind of angry when you can't permit a lowboy for 20,000lbs an axle sometimes now, yet guys are running dump trucks for no money at all and loading them to 115,000+. BTW, how much of that weight is going on the steer axle? Bet its quite a bit over the tire rating on those 315s, definitely way over the tire rating on any of those tubeless tires on the drives and lift as well.

Guess I am a know it all jerk after all. Oh well. Have to shoot me i guess. Hey, at least you have Hendy's on the rear, not air ride to make things even worse! I'll give you that.

John
tdozer
Posted: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:44:42 PM
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John,
I'm glad to have your knowledge on the BB. Especially because im also a dirty jerzy resident.
When i said "We" have moved the Hess 61B, I should have said, We have "HAD" it moved. Im assuming that it was you or your associates that moved it the 3 times it moved while under our(Haas) ownership. It was just sold out of our sand pit a month or so ago. I will find out who has it now. Thanx again for the info>
gbarnewall
Posted: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:16:37 PM

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I'd imagine those axle laws only apply to highway or public roadways and not to private land?? if so,do we have any solid proof here that he actually hauled on a public road before we all send this poor guy to the chair???????????????????

Why is "phonetically" spelt with a "ph"?

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