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ok, maybe im missing something, but why do they bury them???? I mean surely theres a better way to dispose of them? as you all say, its a massive waste,
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Esab_Steelblue wrote:Eric Pioszak wrote:Hanford...wow, what a cluster****. the 1250 probably went there too, they've already got at least 2 there that I know of, plus no less than (25) 800 size machines, on any given day there's 300+ machines on site, and maybe 10 of them are operating... The thing that makes me absolutely sick to my stomach is that most of the highly specialized demo machines built the right way by Jewell (all the bells and whistles, no cap on spending) will be buried on site with less than 3000 hours on them. Play around Here for a little while: http://www.hanford.gov/c.cfm/photogallery/search.cfm//1?search=demolition&? Well...what can I say? I followed your link to the photos but diverted immediatly to the main part of that website and I dont know whether I am amazed or appaled.. I am midway through reading it all and really struggling to put into words what my thoughts are. One part of me is impressed by what has been built so long ago...how it was built and also the measures in place to reverse it all. The other part of me is horrifed at just how big a mess has been created. Its almost beyond comprehension...well to me anyway. I honestly dont think I have ever read about something on the web that has gotten my attention as much as this has. It just goes to show how ignorant I have been on so many issues. As I said I am only mid way through reading it all but the realisation hit me near the start that the majority of this area (Hanford) was purely for weapons development...I may well be wrong but I have yet to see any mention of anything else. Now im neither pro or anti nuclear because there is always two sides to every situation but I can see why its such a big issue. The sheer numbers involved in so many aspects of it all is what I find incredible. I cant even begin to quote one particular set of them...there are just too many to comprehand. And mixed in with on more than one occasion the words 'sketchy'...'unknown' or words of similar ilk make it even more amazing. I doubt there are many on this planet who dont recognise the words Nagasaki and Hiroshima and immediatly know what it means. But I bet there are very few who realise just what was needed to make those two occasions happen and also the fact that its still very much around today. I know I didnt...and that is just terrible for me... I consider myself to be pretty savvy with most things in the world but hold my hands up and admit I never fully realised just what was involved in it all. I think all involved were very ignorant to what was being created in regard to waste from all the process's needed and its become a massive problem. I always knew there was waste but never did I ever realise just how much...the figure 'million's is used an awfull lot be it in gallons or tons or miles traveled by vehicles involved and that in itself is staggering. From what I can see a massive effort is being made to sort the issues out but its obviously a very long term situation that will in all honesty take hundreds of years to fully get under control and safe again...thats a massive price to pay for such short term results. What is even more worrying is the cost involved....again that must be staggering and beyond anything I can imagine. Even more worrying still is that for every nation that has the facility to produce similar then there must be carbon copies of hanford elsewhere...in places that dont have the resources to clean up and decommission sites like this...thats an awful lot of scary places. Staggering and incredibly interesting information and reccomend everyone reads it through....very impressed with it all and best read I have had in a long long time on the web. Thank you A staggered and amazed Andy it is pretty amazing to read about what break throughs were reached 60-70 yrs ago,and knowing now the total disregard for what problems it would cause in the future,coincidently this morning on Discover channel I caught a few minutes of a docu about nuclear fission,and how Enrico Fermi carried out the first nuclear chain reaction on a squash court under a playing field at the University of chicago,this eventually led to the reactors at Hanford I guess they knew on paper what would come but had no real life experience in how to follow up
Why is "phonetically" spelt with a "ph"? ... It's better to be silent and thought a fool, then to speak up and remove all doubt The complex of Newgrange was originally built between c. 3100 and 2900 BC,[2] meaning that it's aproximately 5,000 years old. According to Carbon-14 dates,[3] it is more than 500 years older than the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt, and predates Stonehenge by about 1,000 years.
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jcbjs220 wrote:ok, maybe im missing something, but why do they bury them???? I mean surely theres a better way to dispose of them? as you all say, its a massive waste, Thats basically how anything that is contaminated with radiation is disposed of,things can stay radioactive for tens of thousands of years,kinda puts the "carbon foot print" issue in perspective
Why is "phonetically" spelt with a "ph"? ... It's better to be silent and thought a fool, then to speak up and remove all doubt The complex of Newgrange was originally built between c. 3100 and 2900 BC,[2] meaning that it's aproximately 5,000 years old. According to Carbon-14 dates,[3] it is more than 500 years older than the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt, and predates Stonehenge by about 1,000 years.
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JTL wrote:Thanks for posting these for me Andy!
Chris-These machines belong to a subcontractor at the Hanford Nuclear Site. The 850 is still working at the site in the pics. I dont have any clue where the 1250 went. Which subcontractor is it as there are several parties involved.
gr, Remco Kruis http://www.highreachdemolition.com
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Wow thats all i can say, the holes tio burry all that must be huge, and it must be sort freaky working there, knowing whats there....
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