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Hey guys Cat has introduced the D11T. Look here D11TLooks really nice to me. regards Leo
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Thanks for letting us know, I was wondering when it would officially be launched. It's a great looking machine.  Rowan.
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Looks great! Now lets hope Norscot get the point... hehe
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looks pretty sweet 
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what is T mean? look alike to D11R or CD.
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Nice! I'll take a fleet of them please.  Oh darn I forgot - I don't know how to operate a bulldozer. I'll take one to practice on first. 
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gohkleng wrote:what is T mean? look alike to D11R or CD. like you, i don't see apparent differences, maybe more black paint? maybe caterpillar should concentrate on making a new range dozer as a response to the komatsu series 500 super dozer, instead of these multiple series N, CD, R and now T version....
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I believe the T series is electronic updates and engine upgrades to meet new emission standards
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gohkleng wrote:what is T mean? look alike to D11R or CD. The main differences between a T and R are a bigger cab, with more creature comforts, and windows that have a tendency to fall out, advanced electronics that increase the probability of downtime for computer/sensor faults by about 300%, and an EPA friendly ACERT engine. For some unknown reason, the D10T's also tend to throw tracks with alarming regularity. Our "experienced" D10N's and D10R's tend to have around ½ of the issues that the 10T's do, so I can guess that the 11T will have the same type problems. If they'd stuck with the later N models (the vacuum flourescent dash panel type), we'd all be in better shape.
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D10N wrote:[quote=gohkleng]so I can guess that the 11T will have the same type problems. I'd hope that they've gotten those teething issues out... such silly mistakes and downtime shouldn't be a factor in a tractor this developed. :(
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How soon will McAninch have one of these in front of a 651?
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Tigerotor77W wrote:D10N wrote:[quote=gohkleng]so I can guess that the 11T will have the same type problems. I'd hope that they've gotten those teething issues out... such silly mistakes and downtime shouldn't be a factor in a tractor this developed. :( Believe it or not, with the 10T's, the newer they are, the worse they are. Our best D10T is the oldest one - and in all honesty, it's probably the only one on the property that is worth the powder to blow it to pieces. All the electronics issues aside, the most annoying feature of the T cab is by far the windows - the rubber seals between the glass and frame literally fall out during the first 100 hours, and they end up held in with a mixture of RTV and paper towels. Somewhere around the 2000 hour mark, at least one window will have fallen completely out.
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D10N, interesting notes about the D10 T series dozers. There are quite a few others here on the board that I'm sure have seen the D11T field test machines in operation or at least know of others who have worked in or around them. Anything more to report? Also interesting to note that even with the swap to the ACERT engine, power and weight remains the same between the D11R and D11T models. Rowan.
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look at the blade arms, they forgot to paint the rivets. LOL 
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D10N wrote:Tigerotor77W wrote:D10N wrote:[quote=gohkleng]so I can guess that the 11T will have the same type problems. I'd hope that they've gotten those teething issues out... such silly mistakes and downtime shouldn't be a factor in a tractor this developed. :( Believe it or not, with the 10T's, the newer they are, the worse they are. Our best D10T is the oldest one - and in all honesty, it's probably the only one on the property that is worth the powder to blow it to pieces. All the electronics issues aside, the most annoying feature of the T cab is by far the windows - the rubber seals between the glass and frame literally fall out during the first 100 hours, and they end up held in with a mixture of RTV and paper towels. Somewhere around the 2000 hour mark, at least one window will have fallen completely out. Are you serious... *dripping with annoyance* I thought Cat had changed stuff enough that quality was taken care of...
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With the newer stuff, I think any attempt at quality has gone right out the window. We're seeing more problems in just about all the newer stuff we're getting, except the 824H RTD's, which leave the G models in the dust for reliability and quality.
I've also noticed some safety issues with the "electronicization" of these machines, like the loss of any form of control in the event of losing power. The 24H's are a pain if you lose power on a ramp (no brakes, no steering, no dropping the blade), but you can still set the hydraulic park brake - the D10T will lock up the brakes, but there is enough slip in the packs to make a new seat a definite possibility in the event of a power loss. I had a D10T lose hydraulic control while diving off a leach pad, and subsequently took the last 10 or 15 feet nearly vertical (also had to wait for another cat to build me a ramp to get back out - way embarrassing!). The newer 10T's have such a lag in the blade controls at times that you don't want anything to do with diving off a bench or climbing up a shot.
The track issues are still a mystery - they seem to blow the seals out of the tensioners pretty much instantly, and the zipper links flat out will not stay tight.
If they'd figure out a way to keep the nice cab, and ditch the rest, I'd be impressed. Until then, my old chimp clutched N models will be the standard to go by!
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Hey D10N, i think it was you who said that people would complain if they were hung with new rope wasn't it? The T series will turn out fine and even NASA don't always get it right.
I had the first D10T,s in Australia at a site i was at and they were hard work to keep going but they are fine now, RJG 138 & 139 S/N, now they are up to 1200 series for s/n so as bad as they are the market place has spoken and will continue to when it comes to this dozer. Looks like T will be the last letter change from what i hear, series 1,2 etc for the future..
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Slighty different here though, in that the T model thus far hasn't held up to what we ask from it. I honestly think that we've crossed some line wherein technology has outpaced neccessity. It appears that the market forces are driven more by folks who like electronic gadgets, than folks who have to put up with the constant problems. It's EASY to sell technology, whether it works or not.
I'll admit, I like the bigger cab, I like the FTC controls, I like the layout (except the lightswitches - WAY too close to the ripper control). What I don't like is that 150,000 hour+ machines consistently outperform brand new ones.
The general consensus around here regarding the D10T is that if we had to do some yard work at home, it'd shine. On a stockpile application, or working a hard toe/pit overhaul, they're out and out garbage.
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I have a friend who works in the non-oem laminated glass supplies industry and has supplied several new panes for a particular D10T. He says the ones he has made are slightly bigger in size and he runs with larger rubber seals, which seems to work! I understand that there is only one pane of oem CAT glass left in this machines' cab!
I got him to do the glass on my landrover, which had the same problem! Basically oems are making the panes slightly too small to make them capable of being fitted by machine and hence fall out in service.
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