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i think that guy working there knows fully well what he is doing and masters his machine perfectly. and i think he would be able to teach you complainers a goood lesson about how to run a big excavator. you can actually see him working with great precision.
i bet they didn´t place the first rookie in that cab, i rather bet its their most experienced man and they told him "push her to the limits!"
and i also think that the clay and mud should not be damaged too much by being dropped from 5 meters higher than what you expect /irony/
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Come on guys... it's mud!
Show me a bloke who can handle wet, sloppy, soupy mud and not spill any, and I will eat my keyboard.
Amazing machine, by the way.
Ryan
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Wow, what a hoe there. By the way I watched the video and am clueless to why a couple gents are saying the operator "sucks". And to be honest I have never heard a good operator proclaim another guy sucks in such a public fashion. There are SO many variables going on there that you obviously have no idea of what you speak of.
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The comments have been made here but some just don't seem to get it......with a machine of that size and cost they are going to put in the best(proven to be the best, also with proven experience)they can get to operate it, not some flunky just in off the street....thank you for some basic common sense Christian...
BTW...it's mud, it doesn't care how it's dropped or placed, or how.
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WOW it must be hard being perfect like a couple clowns on here.Looks like he is doing a great job...Don't forget boys that thing is on water not SOLID ground..Just my 2 cents.. glen
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Hi !
Nice machine , who is the manufacturer ? Liebherr or O&K ??
By the way Tim thank you for sharing !!!
The Frenchman
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wow its amazing how many guys here are willing to accept low standards for operating, i used to clean out ponds all the time loading into Lindahl trucks and trust me if i would have dropped buckets from as high up as he was i would have gotten my ass kicked by the truck driver. it takes all of 3 extra seconds to lower the bucket down a little more and be gentle. its not wonder this world is a throw a way world cause everybody just cares about banging things out and not paying attention to detail, what a shame
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DeWoc19 wrote:wow its amazing how many guys here are willing to accept low standards for operating, It is amazing that the people who do the operating accept their own work...I have to expierence it every day driving the crappy roads they built here in Illinois !!! (even the roads that are less than 3 months old are CRAP...just think what they will be like in 10 years). I looking at the 4 videos this morning, I did not see anything that would portray a poor operator. I would love to see a poor semi trailer when just one of those buckets were dropped in it....I am thinking it would be an overload with one full scoop. But then again, They wouldn't use that equipment to load a semi as they do not float!!! Have you ever seen them loading barges???? Just goes to show that there are those who do and then those who teach... I think I spilled that much material when I used a shovel.... (to lean on)... DO THE CRIME....DO THE TIME...QUIT CRYINGZOOM ZOOM....Home of the Carpet Diorama and Garbage Can Collection Just Sitting Back & Drinking The Kool Aid While Watching The Lemmings
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you know, maybe i was a little harsh on the guy, if it makes everyone feel better i will take back my sucky comment and insert sloppy into its place. i ran excavators for many years doing mostly shoreline work, digging out slop and wet mud all the time. if you look in some of the later pics posted you will see the front of the machine splattered in mud, that is sloppy work. i never used to have to get out and clean the winshield and front of my machine cause you just dont unload buckets from that high up
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Everything seemed good to me, I would have lowered the bucket more to help prevent from so much mud splattering all over the machine. I work in mud (liquid mud) most of the time dredging out ponds. I don't care how carefull you are you are still going to get splattered here and there. At the end of the job I have to clean the machine, I don't like washing equipment in the dead of winter and get all wet, so I take it alittle easier on the mud dumping. And you are correct Dewoc19, truck drivers get pissed when mud goes flying over the cab and all over the hood of a nice clean truck! moving mud... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPRCNGhrhMk
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^^^ that is how mud is supposed to be cast out of a bucket, a decent operator can gently lower it into place and still keep the machine moving without having to break stride, very nicely done. maybe some people need to take note
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DeWoc19 wrote:^^^ that is how mud is supposed to be cast out of a bucket, a decent operator can gently lower it into place and still keep the machine moving without having to break stride, very nicely done. maybe some people need to take note Thanks, I learned from my grandfather would was an operator for 40yrs. always dumped the bucket at a low level to prevent splattering. enough splattering is going to happen by accident so there is not need to do it on purpose, unless to just can't resist trying to get your co-workers/ boss muddy first thing in the morning. Guilty....
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thank God you guys know better /another irony/
if it takes 3 more seconds to lower the bucket, that reduces cycle time (which in these mass productions is calculated by second!) therefore reducing production numbers
also, and i am far from being an expert here, just saw the video, one idea crosses my mind
a) we are on water b) water moves c) when water moves it has the tendency to make the things on it move as well d) the excavator might not be too much affected by that, but the barge is e) the barge is likely to move up and down with waves. not much, but it does
--> lifting the bucket a bit higher than needed might prevent you from hitting the barge side wall in case of waves. slewing the excavator and noticing you are too low is more bad than slewing it higher than needed to always have rom to slew back in case of an barge moving up and down
now this might not be affecting production when you work on your tracked backhoe loading trucks, you´re on solid ground! but on water, i´d play it safe
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Thanks Christian. Exactly.
Dewoc needs to take a look at this from outside his experience level and QBall should understand what they are doing (?). Yes you guys do make valid points while operating on your local job (please don't splash or dent the bed and don't spill the drivers coffee in the cab), but they just do not apply in any way shape or form with what you are looking at in the above photos and videos.
There are factors here that you will not come across while cleaning out a pond or digging a footing around town.
- Chris
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I've watched the videos and the machine is awesome. Thanks for posting, Tim. That operator looks pretty smooth to me. He's emptying the bucks just above the height of the barge sides. As Christian said, given that both the dredge & barge are on water (well where else would they be? ) there is a lot of of both due to the nature of fluids. I think bringing that bucket down any closer to the bottom of the barge would just be inviting trouble, even if it would prevent a little mud from splashing. Guess we now know why DeWoc & qball weren't the ones asked to run this trial
- Andy
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great pics tim, bunch old women the rest of yas lol. seriously... i think a few of yas have had a hard day at work and need to let off steam... go get a beer or somethin.... this arguing is comical
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ehhh dredging looks boring to me anyways, who wants to be stuck on a river all day not being able to see the work you are doing
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gball i think you would find out very quickly how long you would last being gentle with big gear, it is built tough and can run hard to do the job, i have not watched the vids yet but there are comments in this post that are absolutely spot on and some that are not and i will have to say yours are not.
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DeWoc19 wrote:you know, maybe i was a little harsh on the guy, if it makes everyone feel better i will take back my sucky comment and insert sloppy into its place. i ran excavators for many years doing mostly shoreline work, digging out slop and wet mud all the time. if you look in some of the later pics posted you will see the front of the machine splattered in mud, that is sloppy work. i never used to have to get out and clean the winshield and front of my machine cause you just dont unload buckets from that high up
23 and got it all figured out eh? We rally round the family, with a pocket full of shells.....
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pretty much, world is a pretty simple place
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