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Claus
Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:16:16 AM

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First let me say this is not a shot at anybody. I was reading some of the post o here and I keep asking myself why do people build dioramas, I mean I don't get it at all. I have seen some really nice train layouts over the years and I'm allways in awe of a really nice realistic one, some guys go all out building mountains, valleys, cities, steel mills and more but I still don't want one. Atleast with the train layout you can run you trains. What do you do with a diorama when it's done?

Also what defines a diorama? Is playing with your models outside the same thing as a skilled hobbiest who has spent thousands of hours on an elborate train layout or a building erection scene?

Again not making fun of or poking at anybody just wanting to know why a diorama?
Operator19
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Why let them sit on a shelf 24-7? Wink
cat446D
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all i am going to say is to build the area to do my dio and all of the prep took me 14 hours to do. I did one a while back before i came on the forum which was one i did that didnt progress it was just for a show and it took me probily close to 100 hours to do everything and it was only 2 feet by 2 feet. The 3 i am doing for imcast are 12x4 and im thinking im going to need somewere around 200 hours on each in setting up painting and stuff like that. If some like me or jason or mackattck were to do one the size of the train ones it would takes up probily somewere in the same amount of time to do it. In my opinion i think the only difference between ours and the trains is that to move the trains you just press a buttom were ours you have to do everything by hand. Thats just my view.

Tim
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Komatsupc400hd
Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:24:14 AM

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because some people get bored at just looking a their models and think "hum, I should do someting with my models, how about a diorama? yes that would be good I need to make th sie as real as possible thought so I will put in piping,grass, materieals, debris, sinkholes,caveins when equipment runs over a cave that can't hold the quipment, surveyors and my bestequipment so it will look nice" quote- me after planning my permanet dio.

-Sean


GrahamL
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What good is a model just sitting there, when you can make it work and do stuff, what ever you want. I think it's fun, a little more fun than building customs for me. At least they're doing something.

Graham



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hummer13
Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:31:15 AM

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I do dios for the same reason train guys have layouts. It is also and extention of my collection. A big part of my collection is based on dio machines that I have needed for certain parts of my dios. It is just fun to put these mini machines in the same situations as th real deals.
it is kind of hard to give a exact answer everyone does dios for different reasons though

Jason


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Operator19
Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:31:42 AM
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Let's face it, we collect scale models because we like the real machines, and find a sense of pride in seeing our miniature fleets of these large, impressive machines in our ownership. Most collectors just collect and display, couldn't bother with building a more realistic display, they just appreciate the machines. Than the other side of collectors like the machines, but also their natural working environment and all of the other details going with it, and thus, they enjoy making dioramas to enjoy and to show off their scale models and skills.

Dioramas, good and bad are just another way to display our scale models in a more realistic, detailed way.

-Red
Claus
Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:41:00 AM

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Operator19 wrote:
we collect scale models because we like the real machines



You're 100% right about that. Maybe I get enough of seeing them in their real enviorment everyday to understand the diorama thing, or maybe I just visualize them that way when I look at my models.
loaderman953C
Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:01:03 AM
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Claus wrote:
What do you do with a diorama when it's done?



Well, in my opinion there are two types of dioramas, working dios and static dios.

A static dio is an example of a dio that is done. I built this dio with the sole intent to display a crane model with some dirt models. I can simply swap out models, but the culverts, stone, dirt will not change.



A working dio is a dio that has beginning and sometimes an ending. Usually it displays the progression of a real process. For example, I have been working on my large diorama for five years now. This will eventually have an ending as being a static diorama as a construction yard.

Between 4 to 5 years ago,



Most recently,



To answer the question of why do it, simple, why not. Why not build an area to replicate what the machines do in real life.

Andrew



MackAttack
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Most have already summed it up. It can be an art. Recreating a whole scene the way you want, anyway you want it, with any machine or vehicle on it makes it real, and gives you a display noone else has. Its creativity.

like some of my buddies say, "Why collect scale models and waste your money"?

My answer, Because I can, and I will.

Nick
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cat446D
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the 1 other reason so you can get some cool photos to have
one of my favorites from my dio so far


Tim
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ulf
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MackAttack wrote:
Most have already summed it up. It can be an art. Recreating a whole scene the way you want, anyway you want it, with any machine or vehicle on it makes it real, and gives you a display noone else has. Its creativity.





Yes, and the old axiom - It's all about the journey, not the destination - plays a big part. When I was younger, the train layouts were very appealing because of the creative aspect. You are only limited by your imagination - any terrain, any size village/town, any era, any scale. Of course with trains one gets the interactive experience everytime you fire up the engines. The construction dios are a bit more stagnant when finished, but the building process is just as enjoyable. Think
GrahamL
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Operator19 wrote:
Why let them sit on a shelf 24-7? Wink

Hey! You took my tablet d'oh!. I don't care. Glad you like it so much.

Graham



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mattH
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I for one don't really see the point in "dios" I find a lot of the ones I see actually detract from the level of detail and workmanship put in to the model, you have to be extremely skilled in my opinion to pull off a realistic setting (there are a few people capable of it) but in most cases particularly when theres dirt involved it just doesn't look right, it just looks like your 'x' amount of dollars getting covered in dirt and most people seem to want to jam there entire collection into one small place which doesn't help either! I think the biggest problem is the ability to match the level of detail in your dio to the level of detail in the model your using, it's nearly impossible in most cases, However in regards to my own collection I do like to display my models in a "working mode" just so people who are not in the game can get some idea of size or function, sitting them on small amounts of gravel or lifting a load etc, (nothing worse than someone saying nice crane when there pointing at your 495HR!) Teeth Happy new year. Matt
MackAttack
Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:26:51 AM

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And sometimes, you get a good pic that looks real.



Nick
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MackAttack
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9wbucyrus wrote:
It keep them kids out of trouble and the adults out of bars I suppose.


lol Teeth

Nick
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Claus
Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:23:05 AM

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mattH wrote:
most people seem to want to jam there entire collection into one small place which doesn't help either!



This is so true!!! On a real site the contractor tries to do the job with the least amount of equipment possible but still be productive (you know that cost thing, making money thing). I also agree with you when you say things like great big dirt clots and full size things such as houses are in the background it really makes the whole thing look phoney. Equipment and trucks without drivers or operators look very strange to me as does yellow paint on tracks, blades, buckets and rippers etc.

Again maybe it's the fact I see this stuff everyday and so few dio's actually capture what is real. And again NOT picking on anyone.
Farmerkev
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Not sure, but Id like to make one so people would quit looking at me funny when I play with my models in the backyard.
loaderman953C
Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:34:08 AM
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Claus wrote:



This is so true!!! On a real site the contractor tries to do the job with the least amount of equipment possible but still be productive (you know that cost thing, making money thing). I also agree with you when you say things like great big dirt clots and full size things such as houses are in the background it really makes the whole thing look phoney. Equipment and trucks without drivers or operators look very strange to me as does yellow paint on tracks, blades, buckets and rippers etc.

Again maybe it's the fact I see this stuff everyday and so few dio's actually capture what is real. And again NOT picking on anyone.


I completely understand what you are saying and when I work on my dio, I try to make as real as possible. I sift my dirt with three different screen sizes, so that I can control what is placed on the dio. I also select different grades of soil to add to the realism dio. I have drivers and operators in my machines (not all of them, but the ones that are easy to place them into). The only thing I won't do is to weather a model for the dio, I just can't bring myself to do that. I also don't play with my models, I simply display them.

Another point that should be made is that some of the members with dios are beginners and are on the younger side. These may be their first dioramas, and this is a learning process for them. They are proud to model their machines after what they see at a local jobsite.

Andrew



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