One of our drivers used to work for E.J. Davies and he told me he used to move 150-180 ton on there beam. also said they would move a 4100 with full counterweight and as much boom as they could cantilever too

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Boy I can't wait till the day that N.J. stops letting you all use "boot leggers" to move that type of weight. What will you do when you have to spend 500+ thousand for a LEGAL trailer to transport that type of weight? Frankly, is is coming soon than you think. The N.J. DOT is looking at the bridges across the state, and realizing what kind of damage has been done over the past years. You all in N.J. will find out how hard it is to keep pretty trucks with nice paint jobs and chrome, when you have to go out an buy trailers costing one million dollars or more.
GOOD LUCK in the FUTURE!

I'd rather have this pulling that trailer....much classier.

..MAN TGX 41.680...680 hp

With thanks to www.ditzj.com...great site

There always has to be a spoil sport in the mix somewhere. The bridges in this state have taken a beating from more than just the heavy haul guys. Cars, dump trucks, busses and big rigs have all added to the deterioration of our states bridges much more so than the heavy haulers. Also, lack of maintenance on the part of our state which has been defered for decades surly does not help.
The bridges of this state were designed to handle much more than what they are rated for which adds to thier longevity but they are all in sore shape. Multi axle trailers with geeps and boggies help displace the load further but a 100t load is still a 100t load no how you slice it.

Ive seen where large transformers and heavy loads have been moved on rather small and somewhat overloaded units ...

it often boils down to the municipality not wanting the desruption to get a larger unit ...or its just not possiable to move a larger unit through the streets..

There is a time and place for everything...timing and location often plays a huge part ..

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Good stuff guys!!.... Weight laws... Just another way for the states and big government to pick the pockets of the people realy. Soon you will need a pemit to use the toilet. Now we are going to be told what kind of car to drive, what kind of health care to have, how much money we can make, ... and the list goes on and on. Its not realy funny at all. Its scary.. remember Hitler, It was not all that long ago. People need to wake up. ... sorry, had to say that.

conforti will be picking up a bg 40 from hudson gen this week linde finished up with it last week and its going to confortis yard to be dismantled and shipped to canada for bauer

Greg,

For a long time, we were able to permit a lot of these loads in NJ quite legally...but that is indeed coming to an end. Specialty weight tags and the NJ tire formula allowed for extremely heavy loads and we(Conforti) really were not out there "bootlegging" stuff around. Not saying that it was never done, but we were not the type of company to run without permits. 10 years ago or more we began forcing our customers to remove counterweights, etc., to keep the weights down, and we lost quite a bit of that work because of it. It just was not worth the risk anymore.

We also have operated outside of NJ quite frequently with combinations up to 13 axles with very few problems, NY, CT, MD, DE, VA, VT, NH, PA. We do not go everywhere, but we do get around and I know of very, very few incidents where we got popped for overweight or anything else for that matter. In fact, I can count the overweight tickets from the last thirteen years on one hand and still have a couple fingers to spare.

We are not a bunch of cowboys, just people who take pride in their work, and I figured some of the guys on here would like to see some pics of how things were done here before it all comes to end. Alot of the pics I post are 10+ years old. By the way, we have (2) TrailKing 13 axles ready to go for when they are needed, so we are well aware of the price you have to pay to play this game.

Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but we're just operating within what our State allows and has allowed for many years, and we will continue to do so until they change the laws, and then we will change with them. We are already well on our way down that road.

Take care,

John Pearson

I have nothing to add on the topic and discussion other than this has been an awesome post and a great exchange of ideas and opinions without breaking down. I have learned a lot and I think this is what the forum is great for. Bring on the heavy load pictures guys!

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Bob
Bobs Cranes

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Gary,

Unfortunately, I don't think any of those three are left. I think he may still have the 4-axle Autocar, but the other three are gone. Mark had the biggest one but that went to auction like 2-3 years ago, not sure where it wound up. The 1968 and I guess the 1987 are now at George Tackaberry's place in Canada of all things.

One more thing...on one of our standard 8-axle combinations, i.e. 4-axle tractor/ 4-axle trailer, NJ State law currently allows us to gross 288,000 lbs if running all 12:00 wide tires. Slightly more at 292,800 with 385 Floats up front. Allows for slightly more than 100 ton payload on the trailer, depending on empty weight. It may be screwed up, but I did not write the laws.

John