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Eric Pioszak
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:57:35 AM

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Here are some pictures of a recent move sent to me by my friend from Michigan, hopefully he joins in with more details!












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DeWoc19
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:07:44 AM

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wow thats an old girl! she needs some loving and a repaint! nice rig though hauling that machine around. even with all those axles the flaps are still dragging on the ground
tomcat1191
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:31:42 AM

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That looks like Ballors lowboy if I'm not mistaken it could also be Messians though too.

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tomcat1191
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:33:16 AM

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It almost looks like Ballors yard over in New Haven.

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EricMotsinger
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:15:09 AM

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i was thinking that was Utica equipment haulin that scraper but i could b wrong as for the scraper i got no idea who owns or owned that... never seen a 57 in michigan (well besides Anglin)
Eric Pioszak
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:59:01 AM

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I Believe it is Utica/Messina's truck, since my friend does pilot car work for them. If I'm not mistaken the 657 came from Detroit Edison and was on it's way to Mich cat for much needed TLC and maintenance!

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MICKR
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:34:25 AM
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That would look far better on a Drake float.
JoeE
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:17:49 AM

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Nice pics.
Looks like a coal bowl for sure. Wonder if it has the bowl auger removed for transport?










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diggindanhoe
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:38:26 AM

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One of the pictures was taken at Mich. Cat macomb yard on 23 mile road, Utica. Edison has a few of these that I know of. Holloway had a bunch of the 57's, Anglin tried to use theirs in Canton, MI. but were to heavy so they used the 31's. That is Utica Equipment/ Messina's lowboy. I was at a auction in Novi when Dan Holloway bought 2 657's for $15,000, he bought them for the tires, no one else knew what to do with them. digger

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brendan2700
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:25:44 PM

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Pretty sure Anglin bought all his 657s from Edison then sold them to a guy in vegas for more then he paid for em. LOL

Ajax Man
Posted: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:12:05 AM

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Those 657's that Anglin had were sold to a large Excavating/Paving/Materials Producer in Las Vegas, Nevada and the guy that bought them was the former V.P. of Equipment for Angelo Iafrate Const. Co. He had no business buying those scrapers. My buddy Orlando ran into one of the Anglin boys at an Auction and he knew Orlando when he was running the garage at Crooks rd. when he worked for Iafrate. He told Orlando the 2 scrapers that they bought sat at the Airport for over a year and they haven't even moved since the job was done. Everytime they ran the 657's they always broke down. The day that Jim Patterson came into town to see the scrapers, Anglin fired them up for him to inspect, they tested them in the dirt and they ran without breaking down for a few hours. He bought them on-site that day and paid way more than what they were worth if the idiot knew that they sat for more than a year and were broke down most of the time. I believe he paid almost $400,000.00 a piece for each machine (including transportation costs). When they brought the scrapers back to Las Vegas, the first day on the job, both machines lost the transmissions. They rebuilt the trans in both machines and then, one by one, they fell apart. Patterson got fired from Iafrate for making some of the same bone headed moves that he did in Las Vegas. I understand that he was canned from the contractor (I believe the firm is Las Vegas Paving, not sure) in Las Vegas a couple of years ago. This guy claimed he was an equipment expert and had experience in Large Fleet Maintenance, but to tell you the truth, this guy didn't know anything about equipment and he could not be trusted. Believe me, Orlando and I could write a book about some of things that Patterson did..

By the way, the pic that Eric posted is a Cat 657E coal bowl scraper that is owned by Detroit Edison. That particular 657E is used up at Detroit Edison's St. Clair plant (I believe that it might be the Belle River Power Station) and is used to move the coal stockpile that is brought in by boat. You should see that facility...very large power plant...my uncle and a few of my other relatives were employed there by Bechtel Corporation in the late 70's and early 80's when the plant was being built. The machine was moved by Utica Equipment (i.e. Messina's trucking outfit for moving Heavy Equipment) with a specialized Talbert 120 ton loboy trailer. Utica/Messina is one of the very few Heavy Haulers in Michigan who own such a specialized trailer and they are very selective on who they will move equipment for and what machines they will move. Utica moves alot of equipment for the Michigan Cat Macomb branch in Macomb Twp., MI, that is probably where the scraper is being brought in for repairs.

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brendan2700
Posted: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:03:34 AM

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Interesting never new the full story on those 57's I heard the last job they were used on was a landfill or something but that was a while back.

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