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DeWoc19
Posted: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:54:56 PM

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CatD11T
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HOLY CRAP!!!! But really, what on earth would you use something like that for?

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DeWoc19
Posted: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:12:35 PM

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idk, cylinders say 120t on them.... i suppose it would be just as good as a small hydro im guessing.... never seen a knuckle boom like that before that was setup like a crane
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Posted: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:39:04 PM

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Guys,

There is a Dutch Guy(think he is Dutch) that has a Web Site all about Knuckle Booms. He has some photos of some amazing Cranes.

I will try to find a Link

Found it www.ditzj.de/


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James Muldoon
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DeWoc19
Posted: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:42:42 PM

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i would really like to know who makes THIS particular model
Tony65
Posted: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:01:53 PM
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Very nice truck, will they make a model of this in 1:50?

Reminds me of the Effer DSB 3000, exept it's on a truck.
Remko
Posted: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:57:08 AM

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CatD11T wrote:
HOLY CRAP!!!! But really, what on earth would you use something like that for?


Industrial movings. These cranes are mainly intended for moving heavy machinery in confined spaces where a normal crane can't operate.

Remko

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M.H.W. Smits
Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:51:11 AM

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This is a World Power Erkin crane. This is a Turkish manufacturer. To be honest I have never heard of the company before. Their website: http://www.worldpower.com.tr/

Martijn


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Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:56:31 AM
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These Cranes are starting to be used in Tree Removal across the US:

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=157592&an=0&page=0#157592
Christian
Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:59:40 AM

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CatD11T wrote:
HOLY CRAP!!!! But really, what on earth would you use something like that for?


find a crane that runs over 80 km/h on public roads (in Europe), is 2m50 wide, less than 3 meter high (more or less)

can telescope under load, work over edges, under rooftops ... with this capacity

sure special equipment, but thats the point... doing job others can´t



towoc999
Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:12:47 AM

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Hi !

Very nice boom there !! I'm sure it can be used for so many different jobs , it looks pretty compact
and also versatile .

I wouldn't mind having one like that !

oh yeah 1/1 or 1/50 !!

The Frenchman
Lotsacrane
Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:40:21 AM
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Remko wrote:
CatD11T wrote:
HOLY CRAP!!!! But really, what on earth would you use something like that for?


Industrial movings. These cranes are mainly intended for moving heavy machinery in confined spaces where a normal crane can't operate.


Not really ..Carry decks,spider cranes are most common in the industrial house..fork trucks with boom attachments ,gantries and dollies..all industrial ..the foot print of that unit and its ceiling of usable boom doesn't make it to useful for heavy gear in a plant or otherwise unless its outside on the ground or clear line off sight ....



these units are used allot in the concrete and forming arena,residential housing ,pre-fabed walls and roof truss,the odd air unit and roofing material ..they have their place ...but industrial applications would have this machine at a disadvantage ..

The biggest selling factor is that pound for pound you dont really need a hoisting ticket to run it ..you do need a proper certificate... but not entirely like the one i hold ..because theres no hoist line and winch ..it falls into "similar hoisting equipment".. and its right ..theres no real difference between this and a concrete pump boom operation wise ..you can take just about any truck driver..have him factory/dealer trained to run it ..and you got an operator for it ..

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Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:33:49 PM

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i tend to strongly disagree

knowing the danish (truck is from company Skak) and comparing it to similar rigs like Vamdrup of Denmark for example, i am willing to bet that this truck was designed and build for lifting of machinery inside buildings and confined spaces.

have a look at some classic example work of a similar rig, mentioned Vamdrup above, lifting windmill blade form inside a hall.

http://www.ditzj.de/html/en/trucks/volvo/vstfm480_2750.html





boomguy
Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:46:11 PM
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Lotsacrane wrote:
Remko wrote:
CatD11T wrote:
HOLY CRAP!!!! But really, what on earth would you use something like that for?


Industrial movings. These cranes are mainly intended for moving heavy machinery in confined spaces where a normal crane can't operate.


Not really ..Carry decks,spider cranes are most common in the industrial house..fork trucks with boom attachments ,gantries and dollies..all industrial ..the foot print of that unit and its ceiling of usable boom doesn't make it to useful for heavy gear in a plant or otherwise unless its outside on the ground or clear line off sight ....



these units are used allot in the concrete and forming arena,residential housing ,pre-fabed walls and roof truss,the odd air unit and roofing material ..they have their place ...but industrial applications would have this machine at a disadvantage ..

The biggest selling factor is that pound for pound you dont really need a hoisting ticket to run it ..you do need a proper certificate... but not entirely like the one i hold ..because theres no hoist line and winch ..it falls into "similar hoisting equipment".. and its right ..theres no real difference between this and a concrete pump boom operation wise ..you can take just about any truck driver..have him factory/dealer trained to run it ..and you got an operator for it ..


Lieb errr i mean lotsaAngel I have seen alot of large knuckles with winches. and as far as being the same as a concrete pumper Whatever not really, yeah they are ran by remote but thats about it.
We have a Hiab 600-6 and other than being one of the only Hiabs without a reverse knuckle it is
extremly versitile. And a little more training than from the dealer is required
gbarnewall
Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:25:23 PM

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i'd agree too,our old workshop had a really low roof,about 14ft,and we had just aquired a 3m press brake,i think it weighted about 5ton,could have been more,a friend with a Carmach knuckleboom lifted it in no problem,any other way and it was a roof off job

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aside from it being remote which would totally suck in the winter time i would think that would be a great use... probably get a lot of work out of something like that in factories
Lotsacrane
Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:25:34 PM
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Disagree ?..


Boom trucks aint Cranes ....

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Christian
Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:51:07 PM

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Lotsacrane wrote:
Disagree ?..


Boom trucks aint Cranes ....


sure? this thing lifts 2 metric tons at 38 meters... go see a AT crane with similar rating as competition... makes already for a nice machine. this truck wasn´t bought to lift pallets of drywall up the first floor.

as for indoor machinery moving... what forklift has the reach and moveability of this thing, what carry deck can lift over edges like this...

dont worry, every machine has its place and its use, but this truck, as special as it is clearly was destined for some specific jobs.

now it might be a "boom truck by definition", but remind yourself the machine on its back is so big the whole rig needs a 5 axle truck chassis without any payload left for it...





Lotsacrane
Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:12:31 AM
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It has its place ..

Christian ..You know enough about cranes to know ..if they were any good on the whole ..crane rental and leasing firms would have more of these on the roster..There's a reason they are not there ..

The lil Hiab I ran for a stint ..hey was slick ..but a complete pain in the butt trying to get any reasonable rigging arrangement going ,,not to mention working in arc's ,slow as hell ,scope in scope out ,,scope in scope out ..drive a man nuts ....and then ..pick it up and go ..a guy becomes more of a truck driver than an operator,

Only nice thing about these ..as with any boom truck ..20 minutes after the pack it up signal come ..your trucking down the road going home ..

And that's about the only nice thing I can think of..





















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Lotsacrane
Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:33:51 AM
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boomguy wrote:
Lotsacrane wrote:
Remko wrote:
CatD11T wrote:
HOLY CRAP!!!! But really, what on earth would you use something like that for?


Industrial movings. These cranes are mainly intended for moving heavy machinery in confined spaces where a normal crane can't operate.


Not really ..Carry decks,spider cranes are most common in the industrial house..fork trucks with boom attachments ,gantries and dollies..all industrial ..the foot print of that unit and its ceiling of usable boom doesn't make it to useful for heavy gear in a plant or otherwise unless its outside on the ground or clear line off sight ....



these units are used allot in the concrete and forming arena,residential housing ,pre-fabed walls and roof truss,the odd air unit and roofing material ..they have their place ...but industrial applications would have this machine at a disadvantage ..

The biggest selling factor is that pound for pound you dont really need a hoisting ticket to run it ..you do need a proper certificate... but not entirely like the one i hold ..because theres no hoist line and winch ..it falls into "similar hoisting equipment".. and its right ..theres no real difference between this and a concrete pump boom operation wise ..you can take just about any truck driver..have him factory/dealer trained to run it ..and you got an operator for it ..


Lieb errr i mean lotsaAngel I have seen alot of large knuckles with winches. and as far as being the same as a concrete pumper Whatever not really, yeah they are ran by remote but thats about it.
We have a Hiab 600-6 and other than being one of the only Hiabs without a reverse knuckle it is
extremly versitile. And a little more training than from the dealer is required


depends on the province my man ..My brother got his in an afternoon ..for a 70-80 foot dry wall truck ....I spent another afternoon going over limits of approach and gradients, dunnage and the use of,SWL of shackles,slings and how to inspect them ..and the programmed my company cell in his phone ..just in case ..

I'll say this for my brother ..He listened ..a new guy took his old truck(same course) and electrocuted his ground-man a few weeks later ....

I wouldnt kid about that ..



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