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Gaz
Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:41:41 PM

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For those who don't know this 1 of a kind monster is on our little island for a job up on the M8 in Glasgow. At the moment it is stored at Sarens Middlesbourgh yard ready to go together over the next month or so. Look it up on google, the numbers this machine boasts are incredible.



This is NOT my picture, took it of the net....as you can see its HUGE


I have assurance that when she goes together and lifts I will be well stocked with pictures so watch this space.

Gaz
DeWoc19
Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:45:38 PM

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ok i have always been really confused on this subject.... what is the point in a PC.... i mean you are fixed in your position then... now i suppose if you dont have ANY moving to do on the jobsite its fine but why not just put tracks on?
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Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:52:27 PM

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DeWoc19 wrote:
ok i have always been really confused on this subject.... what is the point in a PC.... i mean you are fixed in your position then... now i suppose if you dont have ANY moving to do on the jobsite its fine but why not just put tracks on?


If necessary it can be moved fully rigged by SPMT's.

Kerst


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Gaz
Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:54:03 PM

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DeWoc19 wrote:
ok i have always been really confused on this subject.... what is the point in a PC.... i mean you are fixed in your position then... now i suppose if you dont have ANY moving to do on the jobsite its fine but why not just put tracks on?


Simple answer, strength and footprint.....take the CC6800/PC6800, the PC although stationary out lifts the CC, this is due to the footprint of the crane is larger and the outriggers stronger. Although the tracks of these larger crawlers look amazing they still run on rollers or bearings, abiet a lot of them so stationary outrigger that does not have to suffer the stress's of movement will be stronger.

hope that helps
Gaz
DeWoc19
Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:57:41 PM

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yeah that makes sense, thanks Gaz.... i figured the footprint being wider might have something to do with it but i wasnt sure.... the crane just looks so naked without tracks in my opinion
Gaz
Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 7:05:58 PM

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DeWoc19 wrote:
yeah that makes sense, thanks Gaz.... i figured the footprint being wider might have something to do with it but i wasnt sure.... the crane just looks so naked without tracks in my opinion


I see what your saying and your right, the PC's do not look as good as those massive tracks....and there is something much more impressive about these large crawlers picking up 100's and 100's of tons and tracking with them.

I've got a video of our CC2800 with 170t on the hook, 300t floating in the tray tracking forward into position, worked it out that with the weight of the crane, the floating ballast and the load there was 1060t pushing down.....was a great sight, and bear in mind the CC2800 is a baby compared to some!

Gaz
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Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 7:10:09 PM

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oh man, feel free to post that video WinkAni that would be cool to see.... yeah that CC 2800 is a drop in the bucket compared to the CC8800
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Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 7:51:17 PM

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Now that's a big girl, keep the pics coming

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A I Nikolis
Posted: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:28:00 PM

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PC 9600 is for sure something special! Too bad they only made a pedestal version, and not any tracks for it.
Are you able to take pics of it in action?

DeWoc19 wrote:
yeah that CC 2800 is a drop in the bucket compared to the CC8800


Actually not Wink CC 2800 is extremely strong for being rated to 600t. I've been told that its absolute maximum load is 1200 tonnes, not sure if it's true though! But of course, CC 8800 is extremely much stronger, you wouldn't really use a CC 2800 for a 1000t lift.

//Alexander
Cosmosman
Posted: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:31:07 PM
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Ohhh. gone all weak at the knee's. Take lots and lots of pictures please so I can try to finish the model i'm making.
eef7260
Posted: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:51:12 PM

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Hi

Some nice pics here as well on the dutch bouwmachineforum
Crane is coming from Rotterdam , that was not a good foto location.
Let's hope it's better here for the pic,s

Eef

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Gaz
Posted: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:51:16 PM

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Tommy unloaded some of the parts for it a few weeks ago in the yard, speaking to the ugly Jock earlier its looking like he's the man on the crawler thats rigging it up.....yes he'll be snap happy and i'm sure we'll get to see some cracking pictures.

Pictures courtesy of Tommy,

Boom section & 1 outrigger!





He's promised more.....watch this space soon enough, the big girl starts going together the middle of next week.

Gaz
DeWoc19
Posted: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:05:08 PM

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holy crap @ the size of that outrigger!!!
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Posted: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:39:59 PM

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DeWoc19 wrote:
holy crap @ the size of that outrigger!!!
Ditto!!!

Rob
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Posted: Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:46:31 AM

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Cat924Gz wrote:
DeWoc19 wrote:
holy crap @ the size of that outrigger!!!
Ditto!!!

(ditto)^2!!!

-John
MammoetMan
Posted: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:07:36 PM

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Ditto times 3.
This is gonna be sick. I expect the usual amount of High quality pics, tommy.
Anybody know what size of support crane is needed to rig this bad boy?
Another thing, how do they prevent the crane from top loading the out riggers. The layout of the crane makes it seem as thought the slew ring will fail.
One last thing, given how old it is, it's got a nice paint job and looks well cared for.


Cosmosman
Posted: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:43:59 PM
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Grayston White Sparrow placed an order with Demag in May 1990 for the monster. Sarens took it over and its just been refurbished and upgraded.
Gaz
Posted: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:55:23 PM

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If I remember right and i'm Tommy will correct me if i'm not but 370t @ 48m radius is the lift it will be doing, and again i might be wrong but i'm sure he said 1000t in the tray!

Can wait till the pics start coming my way next week.

Gaz
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Posted: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:02:36 PM

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nice looking crane there, cant wait to see more, im thinking maybe a 150-200 ton assist craneThink

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Tommy
Posted: Saturday, May 29, 2010 12:50:19 PM

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MammoetMan wrote:
Ditto times 3.
This is gonna be sick. I expect the usual amount of High quality pics, tommy.
Anybody know what size of support crane is needed to rig this bad boy?
Another thing, how do they prevent the crane from top loading the out riggers. The layout of the crane makes it seem as thought the slew ring will fail.
One last thing, given how old it is, it's got a nice paint job and looks well cared for.

I am rigging the crane as of Tuesday morning using a Hitachi Sumitomo SCX2800 on 36.5m main
boom with 102t ballast and 18t central ballast with a hook block reeved on 9 falls of rope to lift the main carbody which weighs 95t as you have seen on the first picture Gaz posted, which is sitting on her new purpose built trailer for hauling her around.
She has just recently been resprayed and must admit she looks well for a crane that came into service in 1993 as Grayston,White & Sparrow's flagship.
As promised, I am taking my digital camera and will take a step by step account of this awesome piece of kit going together.
As usual I have to correct Gaz (I haven't missed you at all) the site is the extention of the M74/M8 starting at Fullarton Road, Glasgow and eventually connecting with the M8 at The Kingston Bridge and for anybody that has suffered with the horrendous traffic over the years this link will ease the tailbacks enormously, 20 years too late I may add, but better late than never.
So for me Tuesday cant come quick enough and promise some great pictures so watch for Gaz posting themTeeth Teeth Teeth

TOMMY
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