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Howdy members, a couple of nice photos of old IHs I want to share, first up is a IH Hough D500 Rubber Tyred Dozer with 700 HP of grunt with 6 Tonne of Lead dust in each Tyre to ensure it had maximum traction to push load scrapers at an Alcoa Site in the early 70s   Second photo is a 350 PayHauler in the Iron Ore area of WA  I hope you enjoy the photos Regards from down under Peter
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Peter, are you sure that's a Payhauler 350, and not a 180?
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Great photos. the D500 is one machine I never see enough photos of. Thanks for posting.
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Brian,, It was a guess, I didn't realize there was a 180? I took these photos from a DVD which had been loaded from the Super 8
movie tape, so unfortunately, nothing is 100% clear, but clear enough to also make out IH 295 Pay Scrapers and unknown Twin
Engine IH Pay Scrapers as well
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footloose52 wrote:Brian,, It was a guess, I didn't realize there was a 180? I took these photos from a DVD which had been loaded from the Super 8
movie tape, so unfortunately, nothing is 100% clear, but clear enough to also make out IH 295 Pay Scrapers and unknown Twin
Engine IH Pay Scrapers as well
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Peter Ahh, I see what you're saying. I'm not even sure what the model of truck is, so I was asking more than anything. I've been around 350s more than I care to admit, but wasn't sure if maybe these were 180s or an early version of the 350 I'm not familiar with. These are 180s:  Brian
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Im gonna say its a 180. We've got two real early 350A's as well as a couple 180's. The radiator isn't flush with the front of the cab on the early 350's like it is on the 180's.
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Thanks for the info on the 180s, very interesting...
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There was a IH Hough D500 Wheel Dozer after this one which resembled the IH Hough 560 Wheel Loader. It was also fitted with a V8 motor I think. First Gear makes the 1/25 and 1/87 scale models of this Loader. Does anybody have any info and photos of this Wheel Dozer?
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DOLPHIN wrote:There was a IH Hough D500 Wheel Dozer after this one which resembled the IH Hough 560 Wheel Loader. It was also fitted with a V8 motor I think. First Gear makes the 1/25 and 1/87 scale models of this Loader. Does anybody have any info and photos of this Wheel Dozer?
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Dolph 1st gear makes the 560 loader in 1:87th. Zycon models sells a customized model modified into the dozer. For the life of me, I've never seen prototype photos of the wheel dozer. I'd love to find some.
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DOLPHIN wrote:There was a IH Hough D500 Wheel Dozer after this one which resembled the IH Hough 560 Wheel Loader. It was also fitted with a V8 motor I think. First Gear makes the 1/25 and 1/87 scale models of this Loader. Does anybody have any info and photos of this Wheel Dozer?
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Dolph I think the 560 was smaller than the D500....it looks similar to the Dresser 580 or the 4000
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luxxx797 wrote:it looks similar to the Dresser 580 or the 4000 It does look bigger than a 560, but it is way smaller than the 580 or 4000. Brian
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Speaking of the 350 Pay Hauler, I received a letter from First Gear today, stating that the release date of the 1:25 Scale model has been put back frpm Dec 2010 to
around March/April 2011, but they did guarrantee everyone would be happy with the final result
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footloose52 wrote:Speaking of the 350 Pay Hauler, I received a letter from First Gear today, stating that the release date of the 1:25 Scale model has been put back frpm Dec 2010 to
around March/April 2011, but they did guarrantee everyone would be happy with the final result
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Peter I saw that earlier this week. I really hope they make one in 1:50 scale.
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JTL wrote:footloose52 wrote:Speaking of the 350 Pay Hauler, I received a letter from First Gear today, stating that the release date of the 1:25 Scale model has been put back frpm Dec 2010 to
around March/April 2011, but they did guarrantee everyone would be happy with the final result
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Peter I saw that earlier this week. I really hope they make one in 1:50 scale. Me too!
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i think the d400 was based off the h120 loader. wich was a little smaller than the 560 loader.the d500 was a new machine much bigger than the 560 loader. it came out before the h400 loader . im pretty sure the d500 led to the development of the h400 loader. the h400 was about the size of a cat 992.the massive 580 loader was built from the ground up as a loader and there was no dozer version offered....international may have had an even bigger machine planned as a set of mechanical drawings show up on ebay now and then rumored to be from an international engineer that depict a much larger machine called a 585 payloader. i have some old 4in1 magazines here that has the info. ill try to dig them out.
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ok. the d400 and h400 are more or less the same base machine. the dozer came out first and was powered by cummins or detriot around 430hp and weighed 48 tons. the loader was 60 tons and carried a 10 yard bucket...the d500 was the first articulated machine they built came out in 1962 weighed 72 tons. it was powered by acummins vt-1710c at 700 hp. later it was offered with detroit 16v-71n. no loader was based on the d500. the 580 was 150 tons...22 yard bucket and had a detroit 12v-149ti engine at 1200 hp. big loader for 1975. i think only the michigan 675 was bigger at the time. but the michigan was powered by 2 engines. good stuff. i like to wonder what the machines would be like if international was still in the market. brian
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footloose52 wrote: 6 Tonne of Lead dust in each Tyre to ensure it had maximum traction to push load scrapers at an Alcoa Site in the early 70s Peter Oy! I'd hate to be the poor sap that had to change those tires, especially since resperators were not commonly used in that era
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Eric, I was in the same work area when they were changing the tyres a few times, and since the alert about lead these days, it has copncerned me a bit, there were fellows who would actually be scooping the lead with their bare hands on some changes,,,,,crazy when you think about it... I'll add a couple more photos of this same era, same company, around 1970.      Hope you enjoy these old shots Regards from down under Peter
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peter a few years back i worked with a old codger that must have worked on that job or another of bells, remember him telling me of the "silver" men changing tires on those paydozers he also mentioned driving a quad track d9 there was it on that project.
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footloose52 wrote:Eric, I was in the same work area when they were changing the tyres a few times, and since the alert about lead these days, it has copncerned me a bit, there were fellows who would actually be scooping the lead with their bare hands on some changes,,,,,crazy when you think about it...
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Peter Especially when you consider that now days, even a concentration of >1% of lead in paint is cause for panic and abatement, due to the possibility of dust in scraping operations... back then they were dealing with 100% lead dust, yikes. Hell i get a headache just working a Smith or Zon kit which I attribute to the low lead concentrations...
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