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Hi from a very happy camper... Following on from my recent post P&H 4100XPC in a living room near you!!!, I am happy to share the joyous news with you all that today is....PACKAGE DAY!!! This morning a great BIG package arrived...   "/> ...you can't imagine my excitement. So here are a few pics;  "/> Attractive inner carton.  "/> Packaging is outstanding, as we have come to expect from TWH. Well done   "/> Tissue paper protects the model from rubbing against the styrene.  "/> Lots of styrene blocks to protect fragile parts like hand rails. These are far more flexible then on past models, making it easier to straighten any that do get a bit bent.  "/> The lighting is simply awesome and takes the model to a whole new level. I think we will see more of this; flashing amber LED's on cranes would be a nice touch  Overall the model is not as high as the Bucyrus 495HR but significantly wider...this thing will really scream through the corners. Speaking of which, the crawlers and particularly the tracks are enormous.  "/> No point wasting time, so I put her straight to work. The model is not without it's warts, on this one there are issues with the boom and crowd mechanisms which are annoying. The engagement mechanism for the boom winch is very sensitive and the slightest bump will send the boom crashing down. It is almost impossible to get the key out without the bucket slamming into the ground or your prized CAT 797F. The crowd winch has no mechanism to hold it in place,so there is only one setting...all the way out. There are a few minor quality control issues with blotchy paint on the main deck and smudged glue here and there but overall the model is very nice. you just can't beat those lights!!! The only other displeasing item is that the boarding stairs will not lower all the way to the ground. The hydraulic cylinders do not have sufficient range of motion, so it's either all the way up or half way down. The answer may be to remove them completely so it would be possible to display the model static with a bunch of P&H mechanics crawling all over the machine.  "/> A first class model from a manufacturer that is always trying to raise the bar so to speak, they should be congratulated on a very very fine model My personal thanks also to Brandon at Buffalo Road Imports for easing my agony and shipping my model to me so quickly. I think anyone who has purchased a 4100 will be delighted. Enjoy! Regards, Chris
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Correct me if im wrong but this is 400.00 plus change?? Im not a huge minning guy but man seeing that model on a shelf daaaammmmn! lol awesome pic's awesome model!!
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I am so jealous. Hope to get mine soon. Thank you for the pics.
How did you get it to hold in place? Is the key still in it or do you have to leave it?
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That does look a cracking model I have to say. Shame about the minor issues you had, though I am not so sure I'd call the lack of boom and crowd mechanism plus poor engagement mechanism minor.
But regardless of that, it does look amazing and the lights really do add something to it.
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BIGBLUE7 wrote:I am so jealous. Hope to get mine soon. Thank you for the pics.
How did you get it to hold in place? Is the key still in it or do you have to leave it? The retaining mechanism does work, it is just so sensitive that when you stick the key in...bang down goes the boom. When you raise the boom and want to take the key out, if you're not ultra carefully...bang down goes the boom. The thing is to keep your hand underneath till you insert or remove the key and you're confident the boom will stay up. Paul R wrote:Shame about the minor issues you had, though I am not so sure I'd call the lack of boom and crowd mechanism plus poor engagement mechanism minor. In fairness, this could just be a problem with my particular model and nobody else will experience these faults. I plan to contact TWH and seek there advice, they may have a fix for the crowd control, the sensitive boom mechanism I'll just have to live with. I'll keep readers posted on how well the issue is resolved by TWH, and in the mean time it remains to be seen if other buyers have similar problems. Cheers
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Great photos Chris, lucky bugger, getting yours so soon, just thinking back when I paid for mine @ 1 Australian Dollar = 0.844942 US Dollars in August 2009,,, oh well.. I look forward to when I can show my ones off.
Regards from the West and down under
Peter
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I was at Buffalo Road Imports a couple weeks ago on a weekend trip, and they had this on a shelf, it had quite a presence. Great model. What a place, when I went into Buffalo Road Imports I could have spent weeks just looking around, so much to see and so tempting to buy because you don't have to wait for shipping. I ended up picking up the Hitachi ZX870 but wanted so many more.
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You lucky @&#!$ I'm jealous but am also willing to be patient for mine.
The lights are a great addition/improvement over the 495s.
As for the boom and dipper adjustments I feel like the 495s weren't without their problems too.
First of all the weight of the dipper on the 495 was pretty heavy so raising or lowering with the key could be a little tricky.
Properly engaging the winding drums wasn't always of greatest ease. And then there was the dreaded 'over winding' issue on those drums which caused those rope connectors to break. I just hope that the fragile pieces used on the 495s' 'ropes' have been improved and made stronger more durable.
In the vid with Orlemann, on at least one occasion they were lowering the dipper and it dropped fairly hard.......seemed like it caught them by surprise.....must be heavy.
Nice photos of one heck of a beauty!
Chris
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What a huge and fantastic model - it looks just stunning. If money was "no object" to me I'd certainly consider adding on to my collection. I'm sorry to hear about your minor problems though and it would be interesting to hear if TWH consider it a "replacement job". Would you be willing to send it back and get a replacement if that was the case?. 
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Great looking addition to your collection...
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She sure is a beaut!
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Wow Wow Wow...what ist that,so nice...... best regards Steffen
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neokonig wrote:I was at Buffalo Road Imports a couple weeks ago on a weekend trip, and they had this on a shelf, it had quite a presence. Great model.
What a place, when I went into Buffalo Road Imports I could have spent weeks just looking around, so much to see and so tempting to buy because you don't have to wait for shipping. I ended up picking up the Hitachi ZX870 but wanted so many more. Try living 15 minutes away   Great pics and awesome model, TWH set the bar high with the lights!
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hi guys,
can you tell how the lights work,
are they battery powered or is there
a plug to hook up to mains power.
thanks shane
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shakyl wrote:hi guys,
can you tell how the lights work,
are they battery powered or is there
a plug to hook up to mains power.
thanks shane They are battery operated. kokosing; I don't know if I could handle living right near the shop, would end up spending large sums there and having an upset woman, heh.
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Thank's Chris for that great preview !!!! I'm one of those who ordered it before november 1 2009 to get the $50.00 discount, we have been waiting for this baby for too long now, last advertise delivery date was to be Marsh/April, 2011 now we are well into May and mine is not in yet, judging by the flaws you have on yours I hope mine will be as perfect as it was long said by the administrator, because they won't get me into a pre-purchase next time for sure !!!!
At this price range, with that too long wait, one of the newest and nicest model maker on the market today must take considerations regarding the customers who buy such big, pricy pieces of equipment models . My point here is if you really don't know the shipping date, then don't throw some here and there to tease customers... Some of us have children at school, mortgages, cars and bills to pay, and when we put that high amount of cash on models such as these, expectations are high, and I shall say near perfection !!! So if the model is not that perfect, then they shall not send it to the customers !!!!
Example of that is the CCM Cat D9H... CCM was not happy with the delivery of the models, a bunch of details were not right up to their standards, so they scrapped all of 'em and ask another manufacturers to have them redo... That is a company who respect their customers !!! I'm not saying here that TWH is not respecting us, don't even try to speculate on that !!! It is just to say these facts:
High price, pre-order of it, long wait, set backs on delivery dates, flaws on model upon inspection when delivered, all these are, in my opinion, are small details that can make customers unhappy and slow these customers from buying from such companies...
Again everyone, it is Not, and I repeat NOT, to put disgrace on a particular manufacturer here, it is just the mood I'm in regarding Chris' comments, as we all share the same hobby, and as prices of today's models keep going up, we should expect the perfection here, if the stairs are not going all the way done, then ask the maker of the model to correct that issue, and such with others, so when YOUR customers, those who buy YOUR models and make YOUR living out of this niche, are so please to receive YOUR models that they will hang to you and insure YOUR success ....
Just my good common sens, don't want to start any fight on this...
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Hi Chris,
Thanks for the post. The model looks awesome and I can't wait for my package day!
Just one point to correct you....I think when you refer to the "boom" you are refering to the "dipper handle". The boom is the static structure supported with suspension ropes by the A-Frame which is pinned to the revolving frame (or house structure). The dipper handle crowds in and out using a rack and pinion system (rather than the Bucyrus cable system)and obviously supports the dipper (or bucket). Just a little bit of Shovel terminology I thought I'd share.
TWH have certainly raised the bar....firstly listening to the industry and collector's that wanted to see this machine built in 1:50 scale. It was a big project, going to P&H with a business plan to make it happen secondly to make a model that is improved over and above the Bucyrsu 495HR/HF models which we all thought at the time broke new ground in 1:50 scale models. I commend TWH for their superior quality and service to collectors and the industry.
I look forward to the next big mining model surprise from TWH.....
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Quote:Just one point to correct you....I think when you refer to the "boom" you are refering to the "dipper handle". The boom is the static structure supported with suspension ropes by the A-Frame which is pinned to the revolving frame (or house structure). The dipper handle crowds in and out using a rack and pinion system (rather than the Bucyrus cable system)and obviously supports the dipper (or bucket). Just a little bit of Shovel terminology I thought I'd share. Tim, You are 100% correct...think I was so caught up in the euphoria of 'package day'. On the positive side it's not as bad as a previous blooper when I referred to the Argyle Diamond Mine as a 'gold' mine. Must be an age thing. Thanks for the correction. Regards, Chris
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I saw one of these at the Drake stand at the Brisbane truck show today by god it's a hefty machine. Wish I had the money to buy it.
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