JUST GOT SCREWED BY EBAY AND PAYPAL. SHIPPED TO D9'S TO THIS CLOWN OVERSEAS, HE FILES A CLAIM WITH EBAY AND ITS DENIED. 4 MONTHS LATER HE FILES WITH PAYPAL THROUGH HIS CREDIT CARD COMPANY. I WAS ABLE TO PROVE DELIVERY THROUGH CUSTOMS HE GOT THE PRODUCT. THEY STILL TURTLED AND TOOK THE CASH, OVER 700.00 GONE BASED ON SOME ACCOUNTANTS DECISION. HOPE THEY CHOKE ON THE BONUS THEY GET.
AVOID THIS GUY IF YOU ARE DEALING IN JAPAN, IT SHOULDNT BE A PROBLEM FOR ME AS I AM NOW DELETING ALL EBAY ACCOUNTS AND CLOSING MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT. WHAT A CROCK. I SHOULD SEND THE GUY A BIG BOX OF COLORADO COW PIES BUT WOULD PROBALLY LAND IN JAIL. BEWARNED.

EBAY Member id hiroya11

JAPAN ADDRESS:

Akihiro Abe
1-13-24
wakore109
Higashimurayama-City Hontyou, Tokyo, 189-0014
Japan

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Still Plays with Toys

Sorry to hear about this. Actually, technically it's you and eBay/PayPal who is getting screwed, because it's the card company that is taking the money back. And believe it or not, PP is at the mercy of the card company as well. They're acting as middle man. Unfortunately, it is very rare to win a charge-back, even for them.

Try this forum thread for some info...

http://www.webmasterworld.com/ecommerce/3966289.htm

If you search on 'chargebacks' in that forum, there are many threads talking about some things you can do.

Also, could this have actually been a stolen card? Was there anything fishy with the address? There's all kinds of scams out there.

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Dave

I agree. The "rule" should be, never sell or buy anything (except from Dealers), if you can't drive there and kick their arse if you get ripped off.

Hi, quick question. Anyone from the U.S or like me from Canada buy models on ebay from China? Wanted a Norscot Cat 374D but only ones that I can see having them in stock are ebay sellers in China. Didn't know if anyone have any bad transactions when buy from overseas like this.

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Coffee, diesel fumes, and a little dust. No better way to start your day!!!

Sorry to hear you got taken. I stopped selling on E-Bay for a few reasons, but after one incident I had with a guy that said I sold him a scale model that was broke. I bought a small collection from a guy and sold the one's I didn't want. This particular scale model I sold him was brand new in the box when I recieved it. I sold it to him, he paid me via paypal and I shipped it to him and then he gives me an unsatisfactory rating and sends me an e-mail requesting that I give him his money back, because he said I sold him a damaged model. I said no because he has the model and if he wants his money, I want the model back and then I will give him his money back. So he reports me to E-bay and I told them I'm not giving him his money back until he gives my model back.

Never heard anything after that. I think he was trying to scam me and after that, I said forget it. I'm done selling on E-Bay. E-Bay in my opinion is not what it used to be...

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im pretty much feed up with the whole thing. i ussually dont buy a lot of models on ebay. but it seems its not worth the stress of selling on there....too much can go wrong. and too many people take advantage of the " customer is allways right "

Same exact thing happened to me selling on E-bay a few years ago. I was sell some of my HO trains off. I sold this guy a Athrean wreck crane & tender . There was nothing wrong with the model when it left my hands at the post office. This idiot claimed the tender stanchions were broke and I needed to refund the money.

Long story short,E-bays sided with this guy and I had to refund him the money and I was out of a model. E-bay lost my business that day over three years ago...never been back.

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