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Do you wonder why he said not to put them on the Internet?
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tomcat1191 wrote:Do you wonder why he said not to put them on the Internet? He said he would get in trouble with DOT if they find the photos or videos online  Otherwise its a bunch of stuff they try to hide from OSHA.
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CAT324DL wrote:tomcat1191 wrote:Do you wonder why he said not to put them on the Internet? He said he would get in trouble with DOT if they find the photos or videos online Otherwise its a bunch of stuff they try to hide from OSHA. No offense, but then why would you put them on????
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linkbelt290rb wrote:No offense, but then why would you put them on???? First of all, its not my problem. I have every right to take as many photos/videos as I want, its public property and he can't tell me what to do. Whatever they are trying to hide I could care less about, they know better because they are DOT.
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CAT324DL wrote:linkbelt290rb wrote:No offense, but then why would you put them on???? First of all, its not my problem. I have every right to take as many photos/videos as I want, its public property and he can't tell me what to do. Whatever they are trying to hide I could care less about, they know better because they are DOT. well i dont want to stir up any drama here, but if the DOT guy says dont post this, you should listen, and also if you live in the state of maine, then it makes it your problem
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linkbelt290rb wrote:well i dont want to stir up any drama here, but if the DOT guy says dont post this, you should listen, and also if you live in the state of maine, then it makes it your problem Like I said its not my problem, whether he likes it or not I am still going to post them. How is it my problem if I live in Maine, that makes no sense? What are they going to do about it?
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CAT324DL wrote:linkbelt290rb wrote:well i dont want to stir up any drama here, but if the DOT guy says dont post this, you should listen, and also if you live in the state of maine, then it makes it your problem Like I said its not my problem, whether he likes it or not I am still going to post them. How is it my problem if I live in Maine, that makes no sense? What are they going to do about it? u could be a bit more empathetic
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linkbelt290rb wrote:CAT324DL wrote:linkbelt290rb wrote:well i dont want to stir up any drama here, but if the DOT guy says dont post this, you should listen, and also if you live in the state of maine, then it makes it your problem Like I said its not my problem, whether he likes it or not I am still going to post them. How is it my problem if I live in Maine, that makes no sense? What are they going to do about it? u could be a bit more empathetic Dude? Seriously? What LAW states that you can not take pictures or videos for that matter of whatever you want on PUBLIC property? There's guys on YouTube that have taken heat over filming trash trucks on public property, people have even gone as far as to all the cops on them. The paranoid DOT worker trying to hide unsafe work practices isn't Mike's problem, that's the worker & his bosses problem.
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So all you side walk supers here that take pictures put yourself in his shoes for a day. Has a wife,kids, house, car and needs the job in this tough economy. Kid shows up snaps a few shots. He is doing something wrong but doesn't think nothing of it and OSHA is trolling the web as the FRA does with the railroad. He gets caught loses his job or worse gets a lawsuit. I honestly won't post pictures of the work I have done. When you pull a triple stack box with 40' plates welded together... Well do the math. The guy asked a simple thing for you not to do and you ignored him. Would it be wrong for me stand on the side walk and snap shots of your wife in the shower. It's public property and I can post them on the Internet. There was a member on here that turned a company in to OSHA for doing something wrong from a picture. Funny deal was they were not even working. Even better he was from out of state. Do you get the point. We all brake the rules. I have only been here since 2009 and been watching since about 2003 and watched this place slowly fall apart and when I watch members make comments like its public property and I can do what I want just turns my stomach. All the buildings in Detroit that are left for trolls and falling in, does it mean I can go take what ever I want even though the city said no. It's public property right? Don't you work for shaw brothers. Wonder what there policy is on side walk photographers. You need permission don't you? And generally if they ask for something you respect there wishes. Most underground contractors will run you out or call the cops for trespassing. I have seen people get tickets for and lose there cameras. Maybe ssdphoto on here can shed some light on how it works. I'm sure he does not just walk out and shoot pics with out permission.
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Tom, You make some, note SOME valid points. Let me first say that I'm not one of these "troll's" that likes to come here and cause trouble, I've been here a while and have seen the good and the bad. I've only had to ask permission once to take pics and that was because it was on a private site, a contractor that a fellow forum member and I talk about did a project within walking distance of where I live. I started visiting the site, eventually got to talking to people, asking questions etc... I eventually got the whole run of the site and was even given access to vantage points to take pictures from that no regular person could get to. I got to know operators, laborers & even the guys from the DOT.
Do I have pictures that could get the company in trouble?, I don't know, they never did anything that put someone's life in danger as far as I saw. The project lasted 3 years, I was out there with my camera everyday that I could and even during the night work phases of the project.
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CAT324DL wrote:linkbelt290rb wrote:No offense, but then why would you put them on???? First of all, its not my problem. I have every right to take as many photos/videos as I want, its public property and he can't tell me what to do. Whatever they are trying to hide I could care less about, they know better because they are DOT. First of all, there is no such thing as "public property". Every piece of land is owned by someone...be it private, city or government. You simply cannot go into a park and vandalize whatever you please because it's a "public park", ultimately you can/will still be held accountable for your actions. You can be ticketed/removed off any piece of land if your actions warrant it. As I'm sure has happenned to a lot of guys on here, when receiving permission to take pictures, the owner/operator requests that they not be posted on the internet. As tomcat mentioned, it could be for OSHA reason's, but more importantly with the use of photoshop/etc now, whoever's equipment you are taking pictures of can be doctored in a fashion that can bring negative action onto the company/owner should the doctored photo fall into the wrong hands. Many city's/etc are getting very uptight as to having their city vehicles and coporate logo's used in any manner that's not authorized. I would guess that if you visited this state's DOT website, there would be something on there stating that their logo/etc cannot be reused/reprinted/etc without their written consent in any manner. The bottom line is the operator was clearly a good guy, and knowing that it violated a department policy (hence the request not to post the pics) allowed a snot-nosed little punk to take pictures anyways. So to reward him, you decided to not only post them, BUT tell everyone he told you not to. You have absolutely NO CLASS and NO RESPECT to pull this off, and regardless of your defense, this shows us all what a self-serving, self-centered individual you really are.
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Like always this forum takes things WAY to far  Its just a grader grading sidewalks here, not a refinery job. As long as I can legally see it, I can legally film it, and if you like to go film someones wife in the shower from the sidewalk, then you clearly have issues. HeavyHaul: You can say I don't have any class and respect all you want, it won't matter to me. You have NO idea who the guy in that cab is what so ever, your stating your assumption on the matter.
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CAT324DL wrote:Like always this forum takes things WAY to far Its just a grader grading sidewalks here, not a refinery job. As long as I can legally see it, I can legally film it, and if you like to go film someones wife in the shower from the sidewalk, then you clearly have issues. HeavyHaul: You can say I don't have any class and respect all you want, it won't matter to me. You have NO idea who the guy in that cab is what so ever, your stating your assumption on the matter. Really, WOW!  -Zack
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I don't see any sidewalks in any of the pics What i see is the man bringing the shoulder gravel back up the the edge of the hot top to back it up..Hey but what the hell do i know i'm not 15 yrs old.. 
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looks to me like the guy is doing a good job! nice machine too. but hopefully one of the moderators here will remove the photos for the operator's sake.
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As a photographer of all things trucks and equipment there I'd like to chime in on this topic. Photographers have rights. Take a quick read here and you will find all you need to know. http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/tutorials/photography_law_rights.html"While the act of photography itself in such areas isn't illegal, if asked to stop taking pictures and leave you must do so or risk prosecution for trespass." However as someone who respects privacy, if someone specifically asks you not to post the photographs online, you've now violated their privacy. I know if I was in front of my house washing my car and someone stopped by and starting taking pictures I'd be all over them. And more than likely calling the cops. It's just a simple issue here. Someone asked you not to do something and you went ahead and did it anyways. We are all rule breakers, but deliberately breaking them is no bueno.
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Plow Chaser wrote:As a photographer of all things trucks and equipment there I'd like to chime in on this topic. Photographers have rights. Take a quick read here and you will find all you need to know. http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/tutorials/photography_law_rights.html"While the act of photography itself in such areas isn't illegal, if asked to stop taking pictures and leave you must do so or risk prosecution for trespass." However as someone who respects privacy, if someone specifically asks you not to post the photographs online, you've now violated their privacy. I know if I was in front of my house washing my car and someone stopped by and starting taking pictures I'd be all over them. And more than likely calling the cops. It's just a simple issue here. Someone asked you not to do something and you went ahead and did it anyways. We are all rule breakers, but deliberately breaking them is no bueno.
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The operator specifically said not to upload the video to YouTube, he didn't say anything about photos, I will not be uploading the video so calm down...
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