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Remko
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:47:31 PM

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Although I used to own a Kenworth T908 with Drake swingtrailer two years ago (Gunmetal grey), I sold that one. I couldn't loose the itch though, and after ordering a solo Kenworth T908 in "Burgundy", I decided to start looking for a complet set as well. The search wasn't long, and thanks to a fellow forummember I received this model just last week. Now for a suitable load. That would probably be a Cat 657G scraper.

First the solo truck.











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Remko
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:50:50 PM

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Truck and trailer combination.



Just the dolly.











Truck, dolly and trailer.





With Liebherr R 954 C as a load. Other possible (and good looking loads) are the big Sandvik and Kleemann mobile crushers, and the Sandvik MT 720 Roadheader.





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DeWoc19
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 7:35:38 PM

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in the one pic with the axles on the dolly spread apart, do they really sit crooked like that with the outside tire being so far off the ground? if so thats horrible engineering
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Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 7:39:07 PM

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they level out when the trailer is attached, and can be adjusted by hand without the trailer on. the hydro lines pull them up when spread out
the drakes are very nice models! im happy i picked one up
great photos

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Remko
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:24:15 PM

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Dewoc, just as Brandon mentioned. When they are attached to the loaded trailer they sit level.

Can anyone tell me the capacity in this configuration? All I can find is 65 to 120 ton load, but I assume the 120 ton figure is for the 5x8 with 2x8 dolly. So the 4x8 would be about 100 ton?

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Robert Heuston
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:27:24 PM

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DeWoc19 wrote:
in the one pic with the axles on the dolly spread apart, do they really sit crooked like that with the outside tire being so far off the ground? if so thats horrible engineering


They are a cantilevered suspension, they pivot up as down and side to side. With the poor quality of roads in our country if they were a fixed in position you would end up snapping them. Same as when you load forward on the trailer the wieght pushed down on the dolly and drive of the truck, that limited movement in the suspension allows the wieght to go drive.

Remko, if you load the 954 forward on the trailer with the boom and stick between the pontoons, you can get your minimum 14t on the drive and you hieght down.
Robert Heuston
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:32:57 PM

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Remko wrote:
Dewoc, just as Brandon mentioned. When they are attached to the loaded trailer they sit level.

Can anyone tell me the capacity in this configuration? All I can find is 65 to 120 ton load, but I assume the 120 ton figure is for the 5x8 with 2x8 dolly. So the 4x8 would be about 100 ton?


On the east coast gross combo is 112t looking at around the 35t tare, so a load of around 77t would be capable, but over on the west coast they will allow you to go full weights, I've seen pics of fully dressed D11t's rolling out of Perth, so your looking at around 110t for the west coast.
GusO
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:38:39 PM
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This rig and set up is nice in any colour, look foward to the mcaleese cab over.
regards gus.
Remko
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:46:32 PM

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Thanks Robert, that helps a lot. I had it loaded with a Sandvik Mt 720 (without cab, railings and conveyor belt), but that might have been somewhat overkill. Would be pushing close to 120 tons or more. In the Cranes Etc review, Ian has it loaded with a 113 ton Vermeer T1255 terrain leveler. That looks like an interesting load. I'll post some shots with different loads tomorrow.

BTW, I loaded the 954 as you suggested. Transport height is now 105 mm or 5,25 meters (206 inches).

One thing I don't understand about the trailer is the rear hitch for the pushing truck. It's located to the left side, wouldn't be more effective if it would be in the center of the trailer?

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Robert Heuston
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:56:48 PM

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In the eastern states you can get permits to run at 5.3m so your just scraping in. As for the tow hitch, I'm not entirely sure as to why it's located where it is, but I just did some measurements and at full width (4.6m) the hitch wouldn't be enough room for the hitch to be centred on the trailer, further more it it was and then closed up the ramps would nt have enough room to lower.
hulan
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:02:53 PM

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Nice setup! .... I wonder if WSI will ever re-tool the truck to give us a W-900L with that sleeper, and rack on the front? I think that would be an amazing model!

Fireman
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:05:28 PM
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Thats a Good looking rig. Glad it arrived in Good Shape. Enjoy

Brad
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I should also get my K200's and 2x8 3x8 combo in the next month aswell.
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Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:50:39 PM

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Remko wrote:
One thing I don't understand about the trailer is the rear hitch for the pushing truck. It's located to the left side, wouldn't be more effective if it would be in the center of the trailer?


Ideally you want it in the centre but with the way the trailer spreads and the rear cross tube going inside the outer cross tube when you close it up the tow hitch has to be on the outer tube so ends up to the left when opened up. The other plus for that is it keeps the push truck away from the oncoming trafic more so is a little safer in that regard
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Remco
you get a extra set of spare wheels with yours ?


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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:13:18 PM

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Robert Heuston wrote:
I should also get my K200's and 2x8 3x8 combo in the next month aswell.

Hey Robert
Thanks for all the info on the Drake's.
That being said can you give us a little info on the capacity of the 2x8, 3x8 combo.
Also any info on the new WSI Drake trailer would be great too!!
Thanks

Art
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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:26:29 PM

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The 2x8 3x8 combo on is alowed 103.5t gross which depending on tare gives you around a68-70t carrying capacity.
As for the WSI model this is basicly the same trailer but without the blank add in section.

This is the trailer I piloted around Queensland and New South Wales for 3 months.
Very simple to describe, the front 7 axles are the main trailer, axles 1-4 steer axles 5 & 6 are fixed and axle 7 is another steer axle, then you have the 3 axle clip which also steers, and then there is the 2 axle clip and once again steers. Everythin from drake is built to spec, trailer widths from 3.2m to 4.88m trailed is generally widened to 4 or 4.2 metres depending on state and permit requirements.Here in NSW the company called Tutt Bryant heavy lift and shift have the same set up, and with the 2x8 dolly they can quite confortably carry a stripped L1850 at around 175t. In Western Australia last week there was a L2350 tranported on a 9 & 3 with dolly and it came in at over 200t.
I hope all this comes in handy. I can't wait for the platforms to arrive.
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Remko, is that just a regular 954 undercarriage that you put on the wheeled A954? Was it difficult to convert?

I can't get over how awesome it looks, I really want to make one myself.

Thanks,

Dan

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Remko
Posted: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:00:35 AM

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Dan85 wrote:
Remko, is that just a regular 954 undercarriage that you put on the wheeled A954? Was it difficult to convert?

I can't get over how awesome it looks, I really want to make one myself.

Thanks,

Dan


Dan, the undercarriage is from a Cat 5110B. Fits perfectly, no modification required.
More pics Here.

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Dan85
Posted: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:29:04 PM

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Remko wrote:
Dan85 wrote:
Remko, is that just a regular 954 undercarriage that you put on the wheeled A954? Was it difficult to convert?

I can't get over how awesome it looks, I really want to make one myself.

Thanks,

Dan


Dan, the undercarriage is from a Cat 5110B. Fits perfectly, no modification required.
More pics Here.


Thanks, Remko!

Hopefully I'll make one myself.

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