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kokosing Const Co
Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:20:39 PM

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Pics courtesy of Daily Diesel Dose. Is it a Case CX800?











The company apparently is nationwide and has an office here in Buffalo-which I did not know of. This site is in Syracuse NY.
kokosing Const Co
Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:36:25 PM

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And a video for your enjoyment!

Cleveland Wrecking
Antho
Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:38:14 PM

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Either Case/Link-Belt 700 or 800. I'd say a 800 more than a 700.
Eric Pioszak
Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:03:59 AM

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While clearly I can't speak for the nationwide operation, their West coast division based in Oakland, CA seems to favor Case/link-belt for a majority of their fleet.

This one sure looks like an Link-Belt "Quantum series" 8000 to me

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Linkbelt or Cat
Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:37:48 PM

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if i saw the cab i could tell you quantam or no quantum. haha


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HRD Remco Kruis
Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:21:14 PM

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It is a second hand bought Case CX800 HRD!


Why is it that when we see a demojob done in America we almost always see "THIS ...!!!"

If you own a machine like this with a 40mtr Kocurek High Reach, and you also own a Cat 245 two piece High Reach: "why are you risking equipment and peoples lives doing this Crazy Stunts...!!!

In my opinion: "A big shame for the whole demolition industry!" =>:-<


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Eric Pioszak
Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:09:06 PM

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HRD Remco Kruis wrote:


Why is it that when we see a demojob done in America we almost always see "THIS !!!!...!!!"

"why in the HELL are you risking equipment and peoples lives doing this Crazy Stunts...!!!

Again: "A big shame for the whole demolition industry!" =>:-<



Could it have been done better? sure. but it most certainly could have been done worse, but no one was hurt if you set proper exclusion areas you can safely drop and size sections of the structure you want! which they clearly did.


Contrary to popular belief, Not all U.S. Demo contractors are the cowboys you make them out to be. and while high reaches have their places, they are not required on every job. on buildings with heavy steel for instance, I have seen first hand where a high reach (with one of the best operators I've ever known) made the task much more dangerous than simply tripping the structure with a conventional machine.

Cleveland wrecking is among the top 20 demo contractors in the country, with an impeccable safety record, unlike many so-called demo contractors in the states that don't even have the decency to equip their machines with cab guards.

From an operators standpoint I would personally love to see more of the European influence in the U.S. demolition industry, such as sorting grapples, oil-quick couplers, specialty high reaches (rather than cookie cutter stock models), oh and no more freaking thumbs. but we don't have the regulations that you do, and the caliber of specific equipment on the demolition jobs is governed solely by the company owner's grip on his wallet.

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HRD Remco Kruis
Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:09:02 PM

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Eric,

I partly agree. But if you have the equipment at hand to reach the top you have to agree with me you not gonna chew away a building in the middle or even lower, risking the section above to come down on top of your stick/boom or even worse...

Problems that occur with High Reach is mostly;
- misjudging the building and it's construction
- not taking the sections down to almost ground level (not creating a slope)
- taking on a building that is to high (safety distance - Reach of the machine)
- or the ground conditions (basements, compaction of soil/concrete/sand) the machine is standing on.

gr,
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Eric Pioszak
Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:59:07 PM

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HRD Remco Kruis wrote:
Eric,

I partly agree. But if you have the equipment at hand to reach the top you have to agree with me you not gonna chew away a building in the middle or even lower, risking the section above to come down on top of your stick/boom or even worse...

Problems that occur with High Reach is mostly;
- misjudging the building and it's construction
- not taking the sections down to almost ground level (not creating a slope)
- taking on a building that is to high (safety distance - Reach of the machine)
- or the ground conditions (basements, compaction of soil/concrete/sand) the machine is standing on.


Watching the video again, the large drop seems to have caught the operator somewhat by surprise, however he rode it out, booming down with the structure and keeping the machine stable all the way. Sure, a high reach may have been useful for that particular section of the building, but the 800 with short boom appears to have had plenty of reach for the rest of the structure. personally I would have preferred a third member shear for the task rather than a pogo stick, that way the piece could have been brought down in more manageable sections, (or at the very least I'd take a cutting torch to the top hook on the pogo, that's just asking for trouble) but still, he accomplished the task without damage or injury


there could be unforeseen circumstances here too, Cleveland is a nation-wide company, (4500 Km across give or take) The high reach boom could have been too far away to effectively truck to the site for one small section of the building,
-Or it could have been out of commission for repair,
-Or the proper tool for the high reach could have been in use on another machine/job,
-Or the operator could have simply not had sufficient high reach experience, which in many cases can cause more problems than using a standard boom slightly short of reach.

on another note, most operators I know will do just about anything to avoid switching booms. While I can't speak for Kocurek booms, Changing over a Jewell boom is a half-day (2) man operation. under a deadline any supervisor I've ever know would give the idea the ax right out of the gate.

Any way you slice it, things are much different sitting in the seat , getting screamed at by the super vs watching videos, and looking a pictures,





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