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todd s wrote:
You appear to be the only sane person on this page.
Not anymore. Here's one of my favorites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj3Of1jf97I My Facebook page: NorCalDiecastCustomsClifton
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my 10 cents worth here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIw_ZfM26Hwthat turbo whistle is the cream on the cake
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Typical, in the second one with the 994. My mate Jason doing all the work!!
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3406E & Nick
I agree the P/Bilt with Cat engine sounds awesome but it just needs a trailer loaded with 40 Tons to do it real justice - the sounds will shudder the earth.
Nick - the K/worth with impressive gear lever and changing is equally awesome.
But Guys - to each his own and I do respect everybodies choices and likes, but the V8's although not bad at all, just does not cut it for me. I am a straight six "Jake" brake guy and I do agree the Cat's are also awesome but still there is just something about "Cummins" that "rocks my boat". The Aussie style K/Worths, Macks etc. with straight six engines and "Jakes" impress me much more than their V8 brothers.
Referring back to "Broekhuizens" Argosys is that the videos on their website does also not do total justice as they were filmed empty - it is a different much more aggressive sound that erupts out of the "Jake" brake activation on a downhill with say around 40 MT payload.
As I explained earlier they pass my house, which is about 150 Ft from the hi-way and the slipway where they turn off to their Depot fully loaded. I might be able to convince Derick Broekhuizen to just place one more video of a loaded rig on his website.
There are many transport companies over here that actually don't even want a Cummins in their yards but then again there are more I think that have only Cummins in their yards. Many Guys prefer the European brands with "intarders, retarders, engine valve brakes (EVB) etc. although I believe a "Jake" is a EVB also.
I was told at some stage that the Volvo FH series COE, of which there are thousands on the roads here, has a more aggressive and stronger EVB system than the "Jake" - that is however unproved as yet.
Dolph
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DOLPHIN wrote:3406E & Nick
But Guys - to each his own and I do respect everybodies choices and likes, but the V8's although not bad at all, just does not cut it for me. I am a straight six "Jake" brake guy and I do agree the Cat's are also awesome but still there is just something about "Cummins" that "rocks my boat". The Aussie style K/Worths, Macks etc. with straight six engines and "Jakes" impress me much more than their V8 brothers.
I may be a little impartial but think the 3406 in my 1:1 Oshkosh sounds best Here is a nice Cummins under load for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq1Pi9X42Po
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But just remember the Mack V8's were all built off Scania technology!
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Todd S
Right on - that sounds awesome.
Thanks for the video.
Dolph
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Ken is right Mack V8 unbeatable , but from what I know Mack V8 is the close brother of the Scania V8 they were developed in a joint venture if I recall properly .
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Towoc & Robert
Yes I hear what you are saying about Mack and Scania.
Just for interest sake.
VOLVO owns the following:
Mack Renault UD Trucks (Formerly Nissan Diesel)
SCANIA is on it's own.
PACCAR (Kenworth/Peterbilt) owns DAF
DAIMLER BENZ owns
Mercedes Benz Freightliner Western Star Mitsubishi Fuso Detroit Diesel
They took over Sterling as well but continued manufacturing was ceased after a while and they closed it down.
Daimler Benz has a very large plant right next to the harbour in East London also named Buffalo City after the Buffalo River (The only river harbour in SA) which is situated in the Eastern Cape Province of South Africa where cars, panel vans, buses minibuses and all kinds of trucks are manufactured and assembled. MB, Western Star, Freightliner, Fuso trucks are imported as kits and assembled there whilst some other vehicles are actually manufactured. They also export thousands of vehicles annually from there to other right hand steer system countries.
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Couldn't resist this one, I have my head stuck up deere butts all day. cats and cummins sound good but it tough to be the ol 2 stroke blue smoke screamin jimmys, double breasted Yamaha's, or mean green cat killing machines what ever you want to call em. But the sound of an 8v or 12v Detroit is tough to shake Espeshialy once you stick a turbo atop her. Stupid emissions laws a screwd that all up though.
HAMMER TO FIT...PAINT TO MATCH!
The ironic use of IT IV emissions technology on forestry equipment…. “Burning the woods down while trying to save the ozone”
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Robert and Towoc, I disagree on the development of the Mack V8. The first US V8's were produced in 1960 (I had a 1976 and that year Mack had a 325, 355, and 375HP version)
Birth of a King When Scania unveiled its 350 hp 14-litre V8 engine at the end of the 1960s, it was Europe’s most powerful truck engine, and it held that distinction for many years. The V8 made Scania the King of the Road.
In the early 1960s, Mack Truck's executive vice president of product and engineering, Walter May, developed the Maxidyne high-torque rise engine. The engine was introduced as an inline six in 1966, as a V8 in 1970, and as the intercooled inline six 300 series in 1973. This was an industry-changing event. The Maxidyne, with an operating range of 1200-2100 R.P.M, and later 1050-1700 R.P.M., allowed a heavy Class 8 truck to be operated with a 5 speed (Maxitorque) transmission. Previously, heavy trucks typically operated between 1800-2100R.P.M. and were equipped with 10 or more gears.
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Thanks for the list of the Mack V8's Ken. They have always had that "Mack" sound! I remember V8 macks from way back, before any of the foreign trucks ever got here. DanielD
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kcmtoys wrote:Robert and Towoc, I disagree on the development of the Mack V8. The first US V8's were produced in 1960 (I had a 1976 and that year Mack had a 325, 355, and 375HP version)
Birth of a King When Scania unveiled its 350 hp 14-litre V8 engine at the end of the 1960s, it was Europe’s most powerful truck engine, and it held that distinction for many years. The V8 made Scania the King of the Road.
In the early 1960s, Mack Truck's executive vice president of product and engineering, Walter May, developed the Maxidyne high-torque rise engine. The engine was introduced as an inline six in 1966, as a V8 in 1970, and as the intercooled inline six 300 series in 1973. This was an industry-changing event. The Maxidyne, with an operating range of 1200-2100 R.P.M, and later 1050-1700 R.P.M., allowed a heavy Class 8 truck to be operated with a 5 speed (Maxitorque) transmission. Previously, heavy trucks typically operated between 1800-2100R.P.M. and were equipped with 10 or more gears. Thank you for the re-alignment Ken about the V8 as I wrote "if I recall properly" becasue I was not a 100% sure but I was sure tha the V8 have had at some point in time being worked by both manufacturer on the same base . anyway Mack V8 still my favorite !
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towoc999 wrote:kcmtoys wrote:Robert and Towoc, I disagree on the development of the Mack V8. The first US V8's were produced in 1960 (I had a 1976 and that year Mack had a 325, 355, and 375HP version)
Birth of a King When Scania unveiled its 350 hp 14-litre V8 engine at the end of the 1960s, it was Europe’s most powerful truck engine, and it held that distinction for many years. The V8 made Scania the King of the Road.
In the early 1960s, Mack Truck's executive vice president of product and engineering, Walter May, developed the Maxidyne high-torque rise engine. The engine was introduced as an inline six in 1966, as a V8 in 1970, and as the intercooled inline six 300 series in 1973. This was an industry-changing event. The Maxidyne, with an operating range of 1200-2100 R.P.M, and later 1050-1700 R.P.M., allowed a heavy Class 8 truck to be operated with a 5 speed (Maxitorque) transmission. Previously, heavy trucks typically operated between 1800-2100R.P.M. and were equipped with 10 or more gears. Thank you for the re-alignment Ken about the V8 as I wrote "if I recall properly" becasue I was not a 100% sure but I was sure tha the V8 have had at some point in time being worked by both manufacturer on the same base . anyway Mack V8 still my favorite ! Your welcome. Good to hear from you.
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Paul Unfortunately no videos to justify "the best sounding truck in the world" according to you, but here are enough pics that surely would make it one of the best looking trucks in the world: http://www.timelinkcargo.com/homeDolph
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McAleese: 1 Mack Superliner, 2 Mack Titans, 2400hp, 260 Tonne of Komatsu and 11% Gradient.....AWESOME!! Video is from the cab of a McAleese Tri-Drive Mack Titan, the rear Rig in a 3 truck pull up the Eaton Range in Central Queensland, Australia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aerQKm8pI_Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qUT1XApvpEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s88NCJgTnUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZoU4qPxR78
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Here is an update of some exiting news around the end of May 2014: http://www.broekhuizen.co.za/http://www.broekhuizen.co.za/home/videosDolph
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Brett great videos I visited mcaleese yard. On stebbing road a few weeks ago when on holidays in Perth sound bunch of lads Gus
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