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I know a lot of you guys use Musky Master as line for your cranes so I was just checking to see if you would change the line to Musky on the following models and if so, which line and about how much would be needed? Thanks!
Conrad LTC 1045
WSI Sarens SGC 120 (looking to have the hook at nearly ground level with all parts reeved)
WSI PTC 35 DS
Conrad LR1600
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They are using the 18# test line and the 27# test. Eighteen # for 250t cranes or less, and 27# for the larger cranes. You will have to buy it in 100yd packages, so you will have enough line to do several cranes. I think that they are only doing it for the looks, as the line is braided and looks more like cable than what we get with it. I don't know if there is any real advantage to it. But I plan on getting some myself, if I ever get to a fishing store that sells it.
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A 100 yard spool won't do many models. I'm not sure how many yards the SGC 120 takes but I think you're going to need more. The 1200 yard spool is not much more in cost. I wish I could remember the name of the online supplier I purchased mine from several years ago.
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EastCoastFabricator wrote:I know a lot of you guys use Musky Master as line for your cranes so I was just checking to see if you would change the line to Musky on the following models and if so, which line and about how much would be needed? Thanks!
Conrad LTC 1045
WSI Sarens SGC 120 (looking to have the hook at nearly ground level with all parts reeved)
WSI PTC 35 DS
Conrad LR1600 I would not replace the line on the LTC1045, just because the conrad line is actually good on this model. On the SGC and PTC i dont know, On the NZG LR1600 you dont need to replace it, its the same line as on the LTM11200. I did not have any lines jumping on this model when i assembled it. i actually really like the nzg line.
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The line on my LR1300 looks a lot like musky master. Like dafgek said, the newer NZG line is pretty good. The 18# line is good for pretty much everything. The 27# is a bit big for hoist lines, but I used it to make some larger "steel" chokers. I'm not sure what line the real life SGC120 uses. I think I got my musky master from bob & Helens fishing shop? Something like that
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Hobie wrote:A 100 yard spool won't do many models. I'm not sure how many yards the SGC 120 takes but I think you're going to need more. The 1200 yard spool is not much more in cost. I wish I could remember the name of the online supplier I purchased mine from several years ago. My best estimates will be 700 yards on the SGC120 to get the hook to the ground and have enough for the winches.
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Thanks for all the replies, guys. Ill just wait until the cranes show up and see how the line is then.  I'm planning on the SGC120 for sure though.
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EastCoastFabricator, The on-line shop that Cubanb343 is referring to is Rollie & Helen's Musky Shop: http://www.muskyshop.com/modules/web/index.php/id/1Randy M. Smolenack RMSmodels@aol.comrandy.m.smolenack.civ@mail.mil
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Thank you randy!
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I use Musky Master on ALL of my models that have some type of cable. I go by the rule "200 ton or more use 27# test, under 200 use 18# test". I used 1 spool of 100 yards to do at least 8 models with 18# test including my 2 RL64 pipelayers. I also used off the same spool to make lifting cables and other projects. I get my Musky Master from here as they have what I want and if they don't have it in stock they call and let you know. The reason for using the Musky Master besides the looks is you can put more line on the winches so hooks will go all the way down with booms extended on telescopic cranes or booms will completely go to ground. Also the line is less likely to break like the factory installed line could. Also depending on the crane you use a lot changing the set up like on the Liebherr HR855HD going from dragline to lift and back.
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The 27# is rather large and out of scale when used for hoist lines.
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Cubanb343 wrote:The 27# is rather large and out of scale when used for hoist lines. I dont really agree with this, but i also dont agree with the 200 ton up using 27lb, i would say pretty much the big crawlers like the lr1750 and up need the 27lb, it would just look silly on a 200 ton. and like they said on the lr1600 you dont need to change it as ngz line is very good and leave the ltc1045 too as i tried to change the line on one of my ltm1050s and it looked goofy with the 18lb i ended up going back to what it came with.
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A manitowoc 18000 uses 28mm and 32mm rope. That's 1 1/8" and 1 1/4" roughly. The 27# line scales closer to 2 or 3". I will try to add some comparison photos shortly
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 It's hard to tell but here is the 18# on an AC-200. Your best bet is to buy both and see for yourself. The 27 is big but still an upgrade from the NZG line that came on the 7550!
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Cubanb343 wrote:It's hard to tell but here is the 18# on an AC-200. Your best bet is to buy both and see for yourself. The 27 is big but still an upgrade from the NZG line that came on the 7550! The price point between the #18 & #27 is only a few dollars ($9.95 for the #18 and $14.95 for the $27 but that is from 3 years ago). You'll never worry about running out of rope for a few years.
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What would work best for the Grove RT540E?
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Patrick C wrote:What would work best for the Grove RT540E? 18# test would be best on this crane. I have Conrad LTC 1045-3.1 crane and I have replaced the original line with the 18# Musky Master and it looks fine on it. I also have the Terex RC 45 crane with Musky Master on it and it looks great too.
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Hobie wrote:Cubanb343 wrote:It's hard to tell but here is the 18# on an AC-200. Your best bet is to buy both and see for yourself. The 27 is big but still an upgrade from the NZG line that came on the 7550! The price point between the #18 & #27 is only a few dollars ($9.95 for the #18 and $14.95 for the $27 but that is from 3 years ago). You'll never worry about running out of rope for a few years. Man, prices must of gone up dramatically. Just got my Musk Shop catalog and 1200yd roll of 18lb is $79.99 and 1200yd roll of 27lb is $89.99. Or they must of mis-labeled the 1200yd spool with the 100yd price. (www.muskyshop.com)
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Hobie wrote:Hobie wrote:Cubanb343 wrote:It's hard to tell but here is the 18# on an AC-200. Your best bet is to buy both and see for yourself. The 27 is big but still an upgrade from the NZG line that came on the 7550! The price point between the #18 & #27 is only a few dollars ($9.95 for the #18 and $14.95 for the $27 but that is from 3 years ago). You'll never worry about running out of rope for a few years. Man, prices must of gone up dramatically. Just got my Musk Shop catalog and 1200yd roll of 18lb is $79.99 and 1200yd roll of 27lb is $89.99. Or they must of mis-labeled the 1200yd spool with the 100yd price. (www.muskyshop.com) No the 1200 yard spools are the right prices. I just got my catalog too and also had checked the website prices!
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dain555 wrote:Hobie wrote:Hobie wrote:Cubanb343 wrote:It's hard to tell but here is the 18# on an AC-200. Your best bet is to buy both and see for yourself. The 27 is big but still an upgrade from the NZG line that came on the 7550! The price point between the #18 & #27 is only a few dollars ($9.95 for the #18 and $14.95 for the $27 but that is from 3 years ago). You'll never worry about running out of rope for a few years. Man, prices must of gone up dramatically. Just got my Musk Shop catalog and 1200yd roll of 18lb is $79.99 and 1200yd roll of 27lb is $89.99. Or they must of mis-labeled the 1200yd spool with the 100yd price. (www.muskyshop.com) No the 1200 yard spools are the right prices. I just got my catalog too and also had checked the website prices! Dian, What I was referring to was the fact that the #18 1200 yard spool that I have which is still in the plastic wrap has a price sticker on it of $9.99. That why I was thinking it was mislabeled. I bought a spool of #18 and @27 @ 1200 yards about 4 years ago so I wasn't sure the real price until the other night when I got my Musky Shop catalog. -Ken
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