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Well Barkerjoh, I took your advice and also bought the WSI Kenworth in red. My Lord, what a truck. I think I like it even better than the Western Star. These are very well made trucks. Still a slight bit less quality than Sword since they seem to have more plastic. But the detail is impressive and the they are beautiful. I need help though. On the KW, the red and white stripe warning sign on the sleeper is barely visible. Is there a way to raise it so one can see it as you approach? Last time I tried to pull on something, I broke it, so this time I am asking first. I love the side panels for the hood. The engine detail is extreme. Do they make the real ones in an 8x4 version? I assume these have the same axle weight capacity as KW T800 and Pete 379s. I have paired mine temporarily with a Sword Rogers red four axle flip. You would have to adapt the king pin to make it work permanently. Good grief it is beautiful. Maybe WSI can make some American lowboys for these.
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Have you seen the Drake Kenworth's??? Can't beat them for quality.
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Glad I was of help and persuasion. Unfortunately the sign on the KW is permanent unless you customize it to be higher where the one on the western start is on a hydraulic.
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Spectacular models Quinella. I have 3 red ones, 2 pulling trailers, and 1 I'm having built into a stretched oil field unit. Worth every penny I highly recommend to anyone that hasn't pulled the trigger yet
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I have the Mammoet version along with the red but my favorite is the Ocean Traders version. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Elis-Hobby-Diecast/803248369690387?ref=hl
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+1 with the C500B's have 2 x red & 3 x sarens wished WSI done the Wstar in red i would had bought one them as well. Drake will be releasing the C509 soon .
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Did anyone ever answer whether the axle capacity on these WSI KW C 500B are more than the Pete 379 and the KW T800 by Sword? And the Robert Heuston, I bought the TWH Drake KW 200. It's beautiful and is highly detailed. But I don't think it's worth the money I paid. If the WSI KW C 500B is $158.00, the Drake KW 200 by TWH should be priced about $85.00- $95.00. The quality is just not there. A lot of plastic. I paid $148.00 and will not buy another one. If there more expensive versions are better quality, maybe. I bought the black simple version with no trailer. Just cannot see the value. CAW
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Quinella wrote:Did anyone ever answer whether the axle capacity on these WSI KW C 500B are more than the Pete 379 and the KW T800 by Sword? And the Robert Heuston, I bought the TWH Drake KW 200. It's beautiful and is highly detailed. But I don't think it's worth the money I paid. If the WSI KW C 500B is $158.00, the Drake KW 200 by TWH should be priced about $85.00- $95.00. The quality is just not there. A lot of plastic. I paid $148.00 and will not buy another one. If there more expensive versions are better quality, maybe. I bought the black simple version with no trailer. Just cannot see the value. CAW Meritor makes on highway planetary hub axles in 58K-70K tandems for example. So i would say the C500 w/ planetary axles has a much higher capacity than the 379 and T800 w/ standard axles. I don't have a WSI model but from the pics it appears to have planetaries. We rally round the family, with a pocket full of shells.....
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Thank you very much Joe.CAW
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one the members here C500 truck
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Tke Kenworth C500 is a heavier truck than the T800 or the Peterbilt 379. The Peterbilt 379 uses a maximum of a 52,000 lb tandem rear axle ususually of Dana Spicer manufacture. The smaller 46,000 pound tandem rears are available from both Dana Spicer and Arvin Meritor. The Meritor product is the former Rockwell non-planetary product.
The Kenworth T800 is closer to the Peterbilt 357 family other than Peterbilt offered a forward axle and well as a set back axle. These are available with Dana Spicer 58,000 or 60,000 axle in some new specifications as well. There is also a 70,000 pound available and am unsure of the manufacturer in the Peterbilt. Kenworth offers a 70,000 SISU for the T800.
The C500 also offers an 85,000 axle from SISU. The SISU's are a high speed planetary axle which minimizes the heat build up of some older planetary's from Rockwell or Dana. There is not a Peterbilt production counterpart to it. It is a direct competitor to the Western Star 4900 and 6900 products in their heavier specifications though are not as long in the hood as a 6900 nor offer a forward set axle. The C500 offers both 70,000 and 85,000 pound SISU axles. Beyond that they are Axle Tech products of a 110 pound spec for logging and heavier to 150,000 pounds as standard options. Axle Tech acquired the planetary product line from Rockwell, though Arvin Meritor has begun building smaller planetary axles again.
There are some exceptions from Peterbilt as I have seen a picture on their web site of a 357 with 85,000 planetary tandem axle. The J Supor and Son Peterbilt 379 and a similar older Peterbilt also have heavier axles but these were special order trucks. I believe that the newer one has 110,000 pound plantary tandem rears.
Today you can also find 69,000 pound tridem rears and a 78,000 variant. These again come from both Dana Spicer and Arvin Meritor but a single speed product non-planetary products. They are just three 23,000 or 26,000 pound drive axles in a row. These are much like 46,000 tandem and 52,000 pound non-planetary axles being based upon a two 23,000 or two 26,000 axles.
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