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Here is a questions for our friends in Australia. Is there a trailer set up like this in Australia, or do you need a dolly under the second trailer? IMG_E1647 by Ken Wheeler, on Flickr"/>
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Ken is that set up from your collection? Very unique. Steve
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Exkvate3140 wrote:Ken is that set up from your collection? Very unique. Steve Yes Steve, just trying to decide how to make the trailer set-up and paint. Thinking red for color.
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What scale is that Ken? Mack is interesting.
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Ken thanks for the response and that will look good in red. That set up reminds me of trailers on the highways up in Toronto, were the second trailer would hook directly on to the end of the first trailer. The second trailer you have there looks like an Apra I have one that is hooked up to a single axle Iveco but I believe it 1/43 scale. Steve
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Claus, 1/48 A. Smith Mack Titan. Trailers are 1/43 scale Steve: B train setup. The trailers are Old Cars, pretty heavy in 1/43 scale. Ken
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Ken thanks for the correction on the brand, I should have gone to the cellar and checked it before I posted. The trailers are very heavy, the one I bought new is over 30 years old and I thru it up on the top foundation shelf because none of the 1/50 scale equipment looked right on it. Did you get the single axle Iveco tractor with Fiat Allis badging with yours. Steve
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kcmtoys wrote:Here is a questions for our friends in Australia. Is there a trailer set up like this in Australia, or do you need a dolly under the second trailer? [...] kcmtoys, Australian B-trains are generally made of reefers, box vans, tippers or flatbeds (as you may access/unload the front trailer from its side). I have never seen a B-train made of 2 lowboys, I would therefore recommend to add a conventional 2-axle dolly between both units: Pictures taken in Perth area (WA) in 2014. Regards. Guy
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Hi . Looking at the New South Wales ,Australia road rules you must have a 2 axel dolly in between units all states have different rule could be wrong but. Leon.
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To complement above responses, the Australian Trucking Association leaflet on trucks configurations: https://www.truck.net.au/sites/default/files/TAPs%20-%20description%20of%20truck%20configuration%20September%202016.pdfApparently over there, B-Trains are called B-Doubles. I hope it helps. Guy
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Guy you are definitely the kcmtoys of Le Muy - Var - France. You boys have all the knowledge of the trucking industry and can answer any questions involved with it. Thanks Steve
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Steve,
Many thanks for your support: I'm not at all in the trucking industry but only collecting models trucks and interested in all real ones. As I spent several weeks in Australia in 2014 for my job (in Western Australia and Queensland) and had the opportunity to see (and shoot pictures of) quite a lot of local trucks, I thought that I could provide some input into kcmtoys question. But I would love to read Australian members' answers as well.
Regards. Guy
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Guy I know you were not in the trucking industry, but your knowledge of the transportation industry and the manufacturers involved is very extensive just like Ken’s, who I believe is a fan of the Volvo line of trucks. Thanks to both of you for the knowledge I receive from your posts along with all the questions you answer on this forum especially mine. To the go to guys, you to Quinella for correcting everyone’s grammatical faux pas, which has nothing to do with trucks. Thank you very much. Steve
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Thank you Guy and Leon, great information. I will be planning on making a 2 axle dolly for these trailers. Thank's Steve for the compliments. Here is another one I have been thinking about for a while, what do you think? IMG_1649 by Ken Wheeler, on Flickr"/>
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Ken I have had that Conrad trailer for about 15 years now sits in a bottom draw of a dresser, never knew what to haul with it. The bucket looks good on it, how about for a tractor one of those Oshkosh tank haulers. Do it up in Bay Crane colors they have a set up close to that it was pulled over and sat on 95 for two weeks because they never pulled permits. I believe there was a Generator on it that was real heavy. Steve
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Ken ,
You could also use the Oshkosh P-Series 4x4 Tractor probably would not have to change the Coulor ,I have the model and use it on quite a few different type of floats . Leon.
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Ken, That Schmitz-Cargobull semi-trailer was used in large numbers in Libya to carry concrete elements of the Great Man Made River Project: Some have gone since to local private heavy haulage companies and, as far as I know, accept up to 130 tonnes of payload. I have no idea of the mining shovel bucket weight, but it seems to fit within that value (to be verified). I would avoid a 4x4 unit to tow it (too light for me in terms of weight transfer on the 5th wheel) and recommend a heavier 3-axle (or more) tractor unit, like the Kenworth shown with it. For info, my own version: I hope it helps. Guy
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Hi Guy,
Great pictures I have been after the model of the MAN Conrad model for years There was one for sale on a German EBAY site, he was asking 600 Euro to exspensive for me . Leon.
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Leon, I think that the price asked for the MAN tractor you mention is well over the top. I got mine (without wood plinth and box) for less than 100 Euros. As I planned to shorten its wheelbase, that was more than enough. For example, this one was sold recently on ebay for approx. 110 Euros: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/183442294837?ViewItem=&item=183442294837 Even Zigullen Models (which is not known to be cheap) sells them - complete - much lower than that: https://www.ebay.de/itm/283273072369Good luck in your search. Guy
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Guy in the first picture you have shown, it looks like the actual tractor in the picture that Conrad paired with the trailer. I also had that Man heavy haul tractor on the wood display block. The only thing left however is the box and maybe the cab. Would you like me to see if I can find the box? If I do find the box the wood display block may be in it. Let me know. Steve
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