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In The Netherlands it's not strange to see large knuckle boom cranes in the cicil sector such as pre-cast industry as well as lifting large glass panels into place.
And they're common in heavy machinery removals in confined spaces, as Remko answers.
According to your comments about a lifting certificate, so far as I know (I speak for the time I started with my career as crane operator) in The Netherlands there is no certificate neccessary when the knuckle boom is used JUST for loading and unloading your own truck.
Will it also be used for handling heavy parts or (dis)assembling work you need a special certificate for knuckle boom cranes.
Regards Randy
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Lotsacrane wrote:boomguy wrote:Lotsacrane wrote:Remko wrote:CatD11T wrote:HOLY CRAP!!!! But really, what on earth would you use something like that for? Industrial movings. These cranes are mainly intended for moving heavy machinery in confined spaces where a normal crane can't operate. Not really ..Carry decks,spider cranes are most common in the industrial house..fork trucks with boom attachments ,gantries and dollies..all industrial ..the foot print of that unit and its ceiling of usable boom doesn't make it to useful for heavy gear in a plant or otherwise unless its outside on the ground or clear line off sight .... these units are used allot in the concrete and forming arena,residential housing ,pre-fabed walls and roof truss,the odd air unit and roofing material ..they have their place ...but industrial applications would have this machine at a disadvantage .. The biggest selling factor is that pound for pound you dont really need a hoisting ticket to run it ..you do need a proper certificate... but not entirely like the one i hold ..because theres no hoist line and winch ..it falls into "similar hoisting equipment".. and its right ..theres no real difference between this and a concrete pump boom operation wise ..you can take just about any truck driver..have him factory/dealer trained to run it ..and you got an operator for it .. Lieb errr i mean lotsa  I have seen alot of large knuckles with winches. and as far as being the same as a concrete pumper  not really, yeah they are ran by remote but thats about it. We have a Hiab 600-6 and other than being one of the only Hiabs without a reverse knuckle it is extremly versitile. And a little more training than from the dealer is required depends on the province my man ..My brother got his in an afternoon ..for a 70-80 foot dry wall truck ....I spent another afternoon going over limits of approach and gradients, dunnage and the use of,SWL of shackles,slings and how to inspect them ..and the programmed my company cell in his phone ..just in case .. I'll say this for my brother ..He listened ..a new guy took his old truck(same course) and electrocuted his ground-man a few weeks later .... I wouldnt kid about that .. My man? lol Your not telling me that running a drywall truck is the same as running a knuckle boom out in the field. Iam not knocking drywall trucks but come on. How many drywall trucks place large B.O.Ps under a drilling rig floor or load and unload gas seperators or compressors, I could go on and on, but alas trying to explain to u the advantages of a knuckleboom is like talking to a wall. 
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its a Hiab with a set of forks ..release the forks and put a hook on ..its a regular knuckle boom .. throw a hopper on ,some hose ..you got a concrete pump .. and that's all they are ..glorified concrete pumps ..
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[quote=Lotsacrane] its a Hiab with a set of forks ..release the forks and put a hook on ..its a regular knuckle boom ..
throw a hopper on ,some hose ..you got a concrete pump ..
and that's all they are ..glorified concrete pumps ..
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Q-Ball a wolf in Jesus skin ---the sorcerer of reasonable commentary I smile & wave Sometimes I think life is just a rodeo,
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It was all meant in fun, not to offend, and I'm sorry you took it that way. I do however think you are blowing things way out of proportion. Just remember some of the comments you made to people when you called yourself Liebherr1160.
Brian
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Greasemonkey wrote:It was all meant in fun, not to offend, and I'm sorry you took it that way.
Brian Ive done wrong in the past ..granted ..I'll own that ... Behaving myself and adding to the forum Its the only way i can try to pay back ..I have no other means.. I caught your comment after mine ....You retraction of statements and a sorry .. Whether told to or not is irrelevant.. It speaks volumes about your character .... Lets carry on .. its all good ..  .. no harm ...no foul
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Greasemonkey wrote:It was all meant in fun, not to offend, and I'm sorry you took it that way. I do however think you are blowing things way out of proportion. Just remember some of the comments you made to people when you called yourself Liebherr1160.
Brian See previous message .... Oh ..not to pick nits ..but it was a small L ..liebherr1160..I didnt know how to use the caps and shift key back then .. 
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Lotsacrane wrote: its a Hiab with a set of forks ..release the forks and put a hook on ..its a regular knuckle boom ..
throw a hopper on ,some hose ..you got a concrete pump ..
and that's all they are ..glorified concrete pumps ..
no comment... really not speaks for itself thank god you don´t sit in the engineering department of Palfinger, Effer etc
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Christian wrote:Lotsacrane wrote: its a Hiab with a set of forks ..release the forks and put a hook on ..its a regular knuckle boom ..
throw a hopper on ,some hose ..you got a concrete pump ..
and that's all they are ..glorified concrete pumps ..
no comment... really not speaks for itself thank god you don´t sit in the engineering department of Palfinger, Effer etc LOL..Ok Christian  We do agree these machines have their place.. They look like concrete pumps and dry wall handler's ...would make an interesting kit bashed custom .
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