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I have just finished unboxing my 3 models and while there is enough accuracy in details the models and ultimately the collectors have suffered from the processes that take place well after CCM have completed there design work with the assemblers not being consistent with there process creating most of the issues noted here.
Most of us might know just a snippet of the saga that these models have been but i am sure there are 100 times more we don,t know about that CCM have had to deal with and unfortunately they now have to continue to deal with it. The bottom line with that is that it impacts everyone as time the guys and gals at CCM could be putting into new models now has to be allocated elsewhere.
On my S x S it had the inner track on 1 machine really misaligned when viewed from above around the front idler, this was an easy fix by just running the track around a little and it found the "sweet spot" and square up nicely. The looseness of the connection from the blade to the push frame is a bit annoying but at the end of the day when it is on display on the shelf is it really that big a deal, i can live with it.
The D9H box mine came in actually had some "dents" and miss-shaping to it which was quite odd considering the tissue paper around it was perfect, most likely these boxes were from the first run so they have been "handled" quite a bit and while it does not affect the model it was just a little annoying but again, i can live with it. My model suffers from fairly loose ripper hydraulics and the shank needs some work to get it in the ripper box and the pin installed.
The double D has had the hose guide come off the top centre of the nose cone on the rear machine, this was stuck to the wrapping paper, the connector between both machine was out but an easy fix there but the biggest issue i have with it is the blade will only raise 2-3mm off the ground, i force it abit to see but it was solid and felt like i might bust something if i went further, the big deal here is it won,t display behind a scraper cos you can,t get the blade high enough to square up the cup in it onto the push pad of the scraper. So i just extended the blade down enough for the rods to pop out of the cylinders and then used the D9H ripper pin to see how deep each cylinder was and for some reason i have yet to work out the RHS cylinder is not as deep as the LHS so hence wont allow the rods to go all the way in and the blade to raise higher, should be an easy fix and maybe it just requires a little bit of the rod cut off but certainly annoying again.
From what i see in most of the pics so far lots of machines have "track" issues around the sprocket area, i would say a slight alignment issue with the teeth on the sprocket and with a bit of rotation of the tracks i have rectified all mine to the point they will display fine and not give the machine an odd look.
The front idlers, hmmmmmmm, this is ceratinly a big blew and it is odd that it made it into production as the proto type pics on the CCM site clearly showed a stepped idler that would have had the track link/rail running on it instead of the idler running on the bush of the track link like a Sytem one set up. I find the models have enough accurate stuff to draw my attention to rather than mull over the idler itself.
As to the seat on the rear machine and the LHS headlight i guess the issue here is that the spec sheet that comes with each model and doubles as the COA (a great idea too i might add) shows the rear tractor with a seat and no headlights what so ever so no doubt a question over that but as Randy eluded to there can be reasons behind why it may or may not have a seat. As to the headlight missing on the LHS of the rear machine as soon as i took it out of the box my first thought was (and i have never seen a real DD9H but it is on my bucket list!) that it is removed completely as it would be shining straight onto the repositioned operator on the front machine, this would be undesireable so it is gone but maybe it would have been better to leave both off just like the spec sheet.
Off to fixing the DD9H blade i am!
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While I do not have mine yet, I have been following the posts and pictures closely. While I firmly believe CCM has tried to put out a quality product, and have on many other occasions, it seems they may have missed the mark this time. After the great deal of delays, which I did not mind, as much sooner and I may have had to cancel my order, I would have expected that the issues that have been posted about would have been corrected. I do not recall these types of complaints on any of the other models they have done.
I am hoping I will still be happy when I finally get mine.
Jerry
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Gavin do jou have pictures of it THE DD and SxS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-JozbsaL0Y
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I think I am no different in looking at the model D-9H I received. It is missing an assembly rivet in the ripper assembly and the ripper tooth had to be filed to fit. And of course the ripper will not stay up as the hydraulic cylinders are loose. Perfect? Far from it. I will deal with the minor imperfections. But CCM should have been more on top of quality control, particularly since they did this exercise twice!
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right men's, for me : in past CCM was for me ''gold'' and now is CCM for me one of the normal model maker ... too much mistakes at the ''wonderful'' D9H's. And,so my model dealer : they have no alternative ?? regards Steffen
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Like I said earlier, after reading all the D9 posts I was nervous to finally unbox the replica. Well I finally had the time this afternoon and when I picked up the box there was a significant amount of rattling...care to guess how I feel at the moment? But before I continue I should preface all this by saying that I think the world of the Peterson clan. As a matter of fact I am still searching the family tree for the smallest of connections and I am also trying to formulate a plan to trick Bob to just adopt me outright incase the tree search fails. But all that is a story for another time. Number 608 arrived as expected. Everything was looked great from the exterior and both the shipping box and the official CCM box were in perfect condition. However once opened things were not as perfect. There were 3 separate pieces floating around under the tissue with the connection pin being one of them. With the 2 D9s independent of each other during their travels to me, there was a fair amount of paint damage around the connection point and up the rear of the front unit. I also have quite a few areas where oddly enough the paint has cracked. These areas are mainly found at the front of the machines where it looks like that there has already been some repainting...with what appears to almost be a different shade of Caterpillar yellow I might add. On the bright side, while I too have the same track issues and random fit issues that many others do, my blade is completely functional and move easily and freely. All together I would say that 90% of the damage is on the right side of the replica which is why I think I can live with the condition of my purchase. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy to finally have a DD in the collection and I am very appreciative that CCM took on the challenge, but I am now sufficiently terrified to open my next CCM order. Having watched the D9 saga unfold I'm almost willing to give them a pass with this one but my last CCM purchase, the 390Dlme, arrived with multiple defects and can therefore only be displayed with the left side showing (like my DD9H will now have to be). I know, I know, I know...it's only a replica, it'll just be sitting on a shelf and I'll be the only one who knows that there is damage on the other side when it is seen on the shelf. But that's just it, I'll know it's there. I spend too much time working waist deep in rivers, feet from a reactor, in contaminated spaces or trying not to slide a 35,000 pound vehicle down 50 degree slope to make the money to make these purchases. I am hoping for a marked improvement in the quality control department in the immediate future. Something somewhere has changed. That something wherever it is needs to be found and corrected. My McAninch order still stands for now... - Chris 
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Excellent photos Mr Ed! Thanks for posting! I'm guessing your ripper shank didn't fit either? Rowan.
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Hi friends,
I recently received my cat D9H, it's a real kludge the cabin rear of has excess glue
railing of hood is loose
lacks the right undercarriage paint
I wonder who reviews the models? one eyed?
I sent several emails ccm no answer
I'm surprised with ccm,always been number one in quality
if ccm continues with these defects everyone ends up disillusioned collectors
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One has to wonder, if these made the cut then how bad was the original run?
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Sounds like just maybe there were still some issues with the assembly house chosen for these and that maybe hasty decisions to get them done were made due to the past drama. 
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I personally think that CCM shipped the models believing that another delay would be much worse than not shipping....
I have two standered D9H's, 319 and 320. It is hard to believe the differance between the two models...
Model 319 is really nice, 320 is now in a hundred pieces. I am trying to fix all the screw ups, too many to list.
That being said it will be as nice as 319 when done...
Art
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