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Gaz
Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:41:43 PM

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Jack. wrote:
The outriggers are not popped in?


Try again! Smile

Gaz
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Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:47:55 PM

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Not a clue mate, the tracks look like that they are offset, but that was probably cause by the fall.

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Gaz
Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:48:45 PM

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Jack. wrote:
Not a clue mate, the tracks look like that they are offset, but that was probably cause by the fall.


your almost there!
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Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:51:59 PM

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Crazy idea: are they not the lr 1300 actual tracks??

I give up mate Teeth

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Gaz
Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:58:24 PM

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since when where a LR1300's tracks retractable?

Look at the center ballast on our machine and look at the weldex machine.


The Weldex one has been modified so the tracks could be retracted to allow the crane to track on narrower roads. Question is with a 100m boom and a back mast was the reduced track width the reason it went over! Mmmmmm

Gaz
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Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:02:54 PM

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Very nice DCI Jones, hse will want you as an investigator!!! Vertikal.net said the ground gave way??

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Gaz
Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:08:34 PM

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Jack. wrote:
Very nice DCI Jones, hse will want you as an investigator!!! Vertikal.net said the ground gave way??


It did, and if you look at the crane only 1 of the tracks has been retracted. My 1st impression was that it had collapsed as the the weight of the crane pushed sideways on it as it fell but i've heard a rumor (i must stress its a rumor) that is did not and was being moved that way, an uneven spread, dodgey ground and one hell of a boom length = 1 wrote off LR1300. Liebherr have been heavily involved in the investigation as to what happened, the only reason I can see in that is they are concerned it was the modification that caused or partly caused crane to topple.

Gaz
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Posted: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:42:13 AM

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mixontour
Posted: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:19:56 PM

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Gaz wrote:
Jack. wrote:
Very nice DCI Jones, hse will want you as an investigator!!! Vertikal.net said the ground gave way??


It did, and if you look at the crane only 1 of the tracks has been retracted. My 1st impression was that it had collapsed as the the weight of the crane pushed sideways on it as it fell but i've heard a rumor (i must stress its a rumor) that is did not and was being moved that way, an uneven spread, dodgey ground and one hell of a boom length = 1 wrote off LR1300. Liebherr have been heavily involved in the investigation as to what happened, the only reason I can see in that is they are concerned it was the modification that caused or partly caused crane to topple.

Gaz


Just a question as to how the tracks would retract, can the tracks only expand/retract while moving? Could it have toppled while expanding the tracks? (I am not trying to poke the bear, just curious)

Dan

1:1 or 1:50, I am still in awe.





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Posted: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:31:43 PM

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Gaz wrote:
since when where a LR1300's tracks retractable?

Look at the center ballast on our machine and look at the weldex machine.

The Weldex one has been modified so the tracks could be retracted to allow the crane to track on narrower roads

Gaz


Not modified, but an additional undercarriage. It's called LR 1300 SX or 1300/W which was introduced over a year ago Wink. Several units have been sold (one to Havator Teeth, no pics though) and one was at Bauma.

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mixontour wrote:

Just a question as to how the tracks would retract, can the tracks only expand/retract while moving? Could it have toppled while expanding the tracks? (I am not trying to poke the bear, just curious)
Dan


I'd rather say opposite. It can only retract or extend once the machine is lifted up by the hydraulic jacks by the sides of the center ballasts.



Sad to see that happen anyway!

//Alexander
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