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TimT
Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:02:38 PM
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Caught this 625 hp Pete with a big load at a local plant yesterday.. Some pics.















MammoetMan
Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:04:23 PM

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Now that is a nice truck. 625hp is,in my opinion, is a bit of overkill.
Nice pics,Tim


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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:18:36 PM
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Sweet Pete with 625 horses I would say that truck has some pulling power.....

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:48:06 PM

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That is a nice truck, Thanks for the pics.
We had a independent contractor hire on with us, I think he had a Peterbilt with a twin turbo CAT engine. This is over kill for pulling dryvan trailer.

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:28:36 PM

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Beautiful truck!!! Nothing wrong with a 625TT Cat, looks like she can pull the weight!
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Lil' Danny
Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:19:07 AM

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That's no Big Horse, that's just a light truck with a big motor. Bet it has air-bag suspension with 48K or 46K rears.Trans American does have quite a nice fleet of Pete's though. There yard is located in South Plainfield, New Jersey.

- Danny


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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:35:39 AM

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When you got that many tires taking the load, you can pull it with a lighter truck but it is sure nice when you hit the hills to have the big motor. Less downshifting.
Where Brutus relies on it's brawn and heavy suspension, interstate heavy haulers rely on a lot of axles and some more HP because they run at traffic speed.

Nice pics, I thought they were out of Jersey.







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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:04:48 PM

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nice Tim! would love me a 3x3x3..looks like Try-It in the background?
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:06:43 PM

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I hear you Joe, and I'm not trying to put anything down. That is a beautiful tractor and we have one similar to it, complete with a 625HP Cat. But really it isn't a " Big Horse ". Big power plant, yes. But it still dosent have the guts to haul an 85 ton machine. Now if you gave me that 625HP Pete with 56K rears and leaf suspension, then I'd have a strong horse !

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:25:43 PM
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625 hp is a Big Horse...as in H.P. You see around here all tractors are called "horses."Big Horses" have big power. You can pull 1,000 ton with a 1/2 horse motor... if you have the gears. Try keeping 65 mph with 400,000 gross.... it takes POWER. Some of Diamonds units will have over 1,500 hp on the road with the twin powered 38 axle Parameter... and still due the speed limit... up hill.
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:29:34 PM

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MammoetMan wrote:
Now that is a nice truck. 625hp is,in my opinion, is a bit of overkill.
Nice pics,Tim
A little extra power never hurts!

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:42:58 PM

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TimT wrote:
625 hp is a Big Horse...as in H.P. You see around here all tractors are called "horses."Big Horses" have big power. You can pull 1,000 ton with a 1/2 horse motor... if you have the gears. Try keeping 65 mph with 400,000 gross.... it takes POWER. Some of Diamonds units will have over 1,500 hp on the road with the twin powered 38 axle Parameter... and still due the speed limit... up hill.


I gotcha Tim. All of that multi-axle stuff is another world to me....

- Danny


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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:10:59 PM

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Lil' Danny wrote:
But it still dosent have the guts to haul an 85 ton machine.


Sure it does, we have trucks with that kind of power that routinely haul 120 ton dozers with no problems at all.

Brian
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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:37:39 AM

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Danny,

Conforti's 1998 Peterbilt 379 is an ex Trans American truck, and I can tell you, it is no featherweight. Yes, it has air ride, but its got a 20K front axle, 25K pusher, and 52K Eaton 2 speed rears, the back 3 on Neway air ride. 550 Cat, 18 speed main, 2-speed Aux. trans. 72 FORWARD GEARS. Double frame, auxilliary transmission cooler, every available option on a day cab. Truck weighs 28,000+ empty.

All of Trans-American trucks are spec'd pretty much the same, and the can both pull the load, and carry it. I moved a PC1000 @ 80 miles with this truck with all 6 air bags pegged at 120PSI and the truck pulled it like it was a toy. No multi-axle set up on that day, either. T-A does alot heavier stuff than that with her sisters, day in and day out.

I love the big old stuff too, in fact I prefer heavy springs to air ride, any day of the week. But these Trans-American trucks are the real deal...they are built and built right and they will do just about anything the old stuff can do.

John
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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:34:36 AM

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45LMSWM wrote:
Danny,

Conforti's 1998 Peterbilt 379 is an ex Trans American truck, and I can tell you, it is no featherweight. Yes, it has air ride, but its got a 20K front axle, 25K pusher, and 52K Eaton 2 speed rears, the back 3 on Neway air ride. 550 Cat, 18 speed main, 2-speed Aux. trans. 72 FORWARD GEARS. Double frame, auxilliary transmission cooler, every available option on a day cab. Truck weighs 28,000+ empty.

All of Trans-American trucks are spec'd pretty much the same, and the can both pull the load, and carry it. I moved a PC1000 @ 80 miles with this truck with all 6 air bags pegged at 120PSI and the truck pulled it like it was a toy. No multi-axle set up on that day, either. T-A does alot heavier stuff than that with her sisters, day in and day out.

I love the big old stuff too, in fact I prefer heavy springs to air ride, any day of the week. But these Trans-American trucks are the real deal...they are built and built right and they will do just about anything the old stuff can do.

John


John,
Always interesting to hear the back story on where and who owned the local heavy haulers, even the modern ones. Thanks.



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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:49:25 PM
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Hi guys they all have a place .Had Diamond Heavy Haul and Transamerican hauling loads together last week out of Harris last week . In the winter came into the front yard where Transamerican boxes at Harris and found Diamonds 20 axel pusher in getting a load !!!Neet seeing the 600 HP pusher in the rear bridge !!! The big thing is a 78000 tridrive rear and you can get 30000 lb air suspension per axel. Tractive effortis what its all about !!! John
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Posted: Saturday, July 04, 2009 7:47:57 AM
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Danny tell JB to put a hat box on the 90 ton hook it to the Pete and have a nice fast cool ride to the job with out Brutus !!! You need a Titan 605 HP18 speed 65000 Mack rears with a 30000 lb air tag !!! Join the 21 centurt !!! John
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Posted: Saturday, July 04, 2009 8:23:31 AM

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45LMSWM wrote:
Danny,

Conforti's 1998 Peterbilt 379 is an ex Trans American truck, and I can tell you, it is no featherweight. Yes, it has air ride, but its got a 20K front axle, 25K pusher, and 52K Eaton 2 speed rears, the back 3 on Neway air ride. 550 Cat, 18 speed main, 2-speed Aux. trans. 72 FORWARD GEARS. Double frame, auxilliary transmission cooler, every available option on a day cab. Truck weighs 28,000+ empty.

All of Trans-American trucks are spec'd pretty much the same, and the can both pull the load, and carry it. I moved a PC1000 @ 80 miles with this truck with all 6 air bags pegged at 120PSI and the truck pulled it like it was a toy. No multi-axle set up on that day, either. T-A does alot heavier stuff than that with her sisters, day in and day out.

I love the big old stuff too, in fact I prefer heavy springs to air ride, any day of the week. But these Trans-American trucks are the real deal...they are built and built right and they will do just about anything the old stuff can do.

John


I thought that was an old Trans-American truck. I recall you telling us that when we had the third axle discussion. Now that I know the specs I have much more respect for calling that rig a " Big Horse ". I also was trying to ruffle some feathers on the forum, try to get a little life out of you guys ! Glad to see it worked !

John, could you post the pictures of Frank's Pete hauling NAPP-GRECO's Bucryus Erie again, or any other load for that matter ? I think I recall seeing the Pete with the Komatsu on in your album at the show last year now that you talk about it.

- Danny


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Posted: Saturday, July 04, 2009 8:25:56 AM

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john suckoe wrote:
Danny tell JB to put a hat box on the 90 ton hook it to the Pete and have a nice fast cool ride to the job with out Brutus !!! You need a Titan 605 HP18 speed 65000 Mack rears with a 30000 lb air tag !!! Join the 21 centurt !!! John


John tells me when they use to move cranes from Yonkers or Foggio in Atlantic City back in the day,they use to head down a day earlier. They use to hook the beam to the C500, and put Brutus on the 85 tonner pulled by the T800, and head down that way. Now they could head down at 75mph instead of 44 ! Switch the trucks around and park for the night, then do the move the next day. Switch again and head on home !

21st Century.....psssshhhhhhhhhh Wink

- Danny


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Posted: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:39:29 PM

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Lil' Danny wrote:

John, could you post the pictures of Frank's Pete hauling NAPP-GRECO's Bucryus Erie again, or any other load for that matter ? I think I recall seeing the Pete with the Komatsu on in your album at the show last year now that you talk about it.


Danny,

Here is one of two pics I took that day of the 65D. They did not come out so good as it was early morning, and I never seem to get enough pictures on the camera when I am driving. 65Ds weigh somewhere around 165,000 operating...not sure what it weighed here.


Like I said, I moved a PC1000 on this truck, several 245s, 138 Link Belt crawlers, etc. I know Frank often moves Bauer BG40s and Junntan PM25s with it, too, and they are no lightweights.

I know we had 105 ton on our tri-axle DM800(18 Front/20 Lift/58 Rears) more than a few times, and we moved quite a few 100 ton transformers for Casey with it in the late 1990s. Ran a few 100 ton transformers with the '73 Autocar as well, ex-Malbros 35(20 Front/20 Lift/55 Rears).

I think the most anyone ran on 6-axles in "modern times" in our area would be Mack Trailer and E.J. Davies moving Cranes Inc.'s 718 Link Belt around the city back in the 80s-90s. That machine was quite a moose. Davies' truck was a bit larger than your standard Planetary drive set-up, but Mack made due with their '66 Autocar with 70,000 lb. Clarks before they got their big ACL in '91(?).

John
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