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HEY GUYS I've got plans for creating a 800 ton mining truck and 4000 ton mining truck to release to the surface mining industry
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And santa would be the companys vice president?
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Let's see em
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D5G wrote:how old are you? seriously a 4000 ton truck, what a joke. This is beyond a joke man! If I remember, he said he was 9 or something around there.
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Even the 800 ton capacity seems far fetched. unless someone has developed a transoprter beam.... simply put, how many cubic yards in one ton of overburden? multiply that by 800, and we have a volume by which we need to transport. Perhaps several prime movers & a train of trailers, from the land down under. 4000 tons exceeds that of a very long train. ap40rocktruck
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i'm 15 and a 500 ton truck would be possible
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MININGEXCAVATORS wrote:i'm 15 and a 500 ton truck would be possible The only problem with that is that you never mentioned a 500 ton truck, only an 800 and 4000 ton trucks. Brian
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Greasemonkey wrote:The only problem with that is that you never mentioned a 500 ton truck, only an 800 and 4000 ton trucks. Exactly.
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D5G wrote:how old are you? seriously a 4000 ton truck, what a joke. let's just do a little figuring here. let's say that it's nice and dry light dirt that weighs about 2000lbs per yard (1 ton). So we would have to have a truck that is able to carry 4000 yards of dirt. Rembember a yard is a 3'x3' cube or 27 cubic feet. so 4000 sq. yards would make for a dump bed that about the size of a cruise ship. Your average quad axle dump truck can carry about 20 tons, so roughly 15 yards of clay material(heaped) and that's with a bed that's 8' wide and 15' long with 5' sides. isn't that largest haul truck around 400 tons? or is it less than that.
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Dirtman2007 wrote:D5G wrote:how old are you? seriously a 4000 ton truck, what a joke. let's just do a little figuring here. let's say that it's nice and dry light dirt that weighs about 2000lbs per yard (1 ton). So we would have to have a truck that is able to carry 4000 yards of dirt. Rembember a yard is a 3'x3' cube or 27 cubic feet. so 4000 sq. yards would make for a dump bed that about the size of a cruise ship. Your average quad axle dump truck can carry about 20 tons, so roughly 15 yards of clay material(heaped) and that's with a bed that's 8' wide and 15' long with 5' sides. isn't that largest haul truck around 400 tons? or is it less than that. Heh, exaggerate much? 4000 CY would be a cube 48.6' in each dimension. Hardly, the size of a cruise ship. What would load a 4000 ton truck? It'd take a large dragline about 45 minutes to load it. - Alex
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Redjack Ryan wrote:Dirtman2007 wrote:D5G wrote:how old are you? seriously a 4000 ton truck, what a joke. let's just do a little figuring here. let's say that it's nice and dry light dirt that weighs about 2000lbs per yard (1 ton). So we would have to have a truck that is able to carry 4000 yards of dirt. Rembember a yard is a 3'x3' cube or 27 cubic feet. so 4000 sq. yards would make for a dump bed that about the size of a cruise ship. Your average quad axle dump truck can carry about 20 tons, so roughly 15 yards of clay material(heaped) and that's with a bed that's 8' wide and 15' long with 5' sides. isn't that largest haul truck around 400 tons? or is it less than that. Heh, exaggerate much? 4000 CY would be a cube 48.6' in each dimension. Hardly, the size of a cruise ship. What would load a 4000 ton truck? It'd take a large dragline about 45 minutes to load it. - Alex well that about the size of a cruise ship I could afford to ride on  Didn't do the math, but 3500-4000 yards of dirt is a rather large pile a dirt.
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Believe me if they could build a 800 ton mining truck, the big Mining corporations would have them. Tires are the only thing holding the haul truck sizes down. 4000 toner thats kinda funny ,but I bet 30 years ago they thought the same thing about 400 toners.
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How big are the tires and how many?In realiy a 425,450 ton hauler might be reachable
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797's and 282's already carry 400+ tons, and probably have already had that much or more loaded on them.
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I love it when the fluids get pumpin' on stuff like this. Good work, Forum brains.
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And the love Gurus flying carpet can haul it...... =) Jake
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Considering that we already have to just about sell our souls to keep a decent stock of 793 tires (46.00R57) around, and the 797's aren't much easier, I don't see a mad rush to make a bigger tire for a bigger truck.
All that aside, there's no loading machines big enough to make anything beyond 400 (nominal) tons very efficient - the shorter the load time, the more time the trucks spend moving. Idle time is a bad thing in mining - we don't really like seeing over 1.5 minutes under the shovel, and prefer around a 1.0 dig rate.
I like the imagineering, and thinking ahead, but in reality, trucks are the least efficient part of the mining process - especially as pits get deeper and hauls get longer. It takes more trucks to keep up with the processing side for every bench the mine goes deeper, eventually haulage costs will cause a move away from perfectly good orebodies or coal seams to closer diggings. The future lies in conveyor systems for older, deeper mines, and a return to rail based systems for the new ones.
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a 4000 ton truck huh?
put a huge fixed dump bed on SPMTs and dump them with a lift platform, like those woodships rigs
ok, speed is low, but hey you move 4000 tons in one go, so you as long as you´re not more than ten times slower than a 797, you gain time
oh, and load it with BWE293... 240.000 tons output anyone?
that said, who would want to ruin himself on such a setup when conveyor belts are cheap
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Tyres aren't the only problem for an 800 ton truck (let alone a 4000 tonner) as a suitable engine would also be unavailable. There's also the question of how to load it.
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